[OWW-SC] OWW User Feedback

Julius B. Lucks julius at younglucks.com
Tue Jan 15 19:39:04 EST 2008 

Can we have both - sending the comments to a mailing list, as well as  
being posted on the wiki.  That way we can try out which one we like  
best.

I'll be happy to read the emails when the mailing list is set up.

Cheers,

Julius
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On Jan 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Bill F wrote:

> Here's an alternative that uses a technique Jason brought to my  
> attention:
>
> http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback
>
> I need to get the correct mailing list name and it's done. We can  
> clean it up later but it will work as soon as I get the mailing  
> list set up.
>
> As for where it is needs to be displayed, please let me know  
> exactly where you want me to put it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> B.
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2008 2:01 PM, Julius B. Lucks < julius at younglucks.com>  
> wrote:
> Sure - let's try it.
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> On Jan 15, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Bill F wrote:
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>> I put a link on the page already But... I think it would be better  
>> to list the comments on the same page in this case.
>>
>> I can change the code so that the comment goes onto the page  
>> itself rather than onto the talk page.
>>
>> Tell me if that works. If so, I can have it turned on in a few  
>> minutes.
>>
>> B.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2008 1:51 PM, Julius B. Lucks < julius at younglucks.com >  
>> wrote:
>> Wow,
>>
>> That is excellent!  One thing - can we have a link to see all the  
>> comments from  http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback -  
>> right now there is only leave a comment, but you would not be able  
>> to see all the comments if you don't leave one.
>>
>> J
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>> On Jan 15, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Bill F wrote:
>>
>>> Take a look at this page:
>>>
>>> http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback
>>>
>>> I can add this to the toolbox when it does the right thing and  
>>> looks right.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2008 1:42 PM, Bill F <bill.altmail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We can just create a page that has the tag in it and put a  
>>> reference to the page in the toolbox for "Feedback".
>>>
>>> Anyone who wants to can put the Talk page in your Watchlist and  
>>> receive email notifications when they are created.
>>>
>>> Again, it's "<comments /> and not <comment />.
>>>
>>> The syntax looks odd but it's XHTML compliant: the training  " / 
>>> >" saves you from creating an open and closing tag like this:  
>>> <comments></comments>.
>>>
>>> Let me put a demo page together and send a link. You can put  
>>> anything you want into the rest of the page you want to deliver.
>>>
>>> B.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2008 1:37 PM, Julius B. Lucks < julius at younglucks.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>> Hey Bill,
>>>
>>> Would it be hard to make a link in the navigation bar that  
>>> inserted the <comment/> tag into the page that the user was viewing?
>>>
>>> Julius
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>>> On Jan 15, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Bill F wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just downloaded and installed a comment tag that may be of use.
>>>>
>>>> To try it add the following tag to any OWW page:
>>>>
>>>> <comment />
>>>>
>>>> See what you think.
>>>>
>>>> This is a starting point. Ican change the code to either send an  
>>>> email message to a specific address or to add the comment to  
>>>> another page besides the one the tag is located upon.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 15, 2008 12:16 PM, Julius B. Lucks  
>>>> <julius at younglucks.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey Mike,
>>>>
>>>> Good points. An email comment/suggestion box would already be a  
>>>> huge step forward, and might be the simplest thing to start off  
>>>> with.  We can always reply to individual emails, and we can  
>>>> gradually evolve the system into an email-based discussion board/ 
>>>> list in the future.
>>>>
>>>> We can also start a wiki-based page, but given how unwieldily  
>>>> long discussions are on the wiki, this might not be the best,  
>>>> especially for a new user who is hesitant to edit the wiki.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, in the presence of no user-feedback on which one is  
>>>> best, we should do both!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Julius
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>>>> On Jan 15, 2008, at 9:06 AM, M. Yee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great idea, but how we implement feedback should  
>>>>> depend on what
>>>>> we expect out of it. Email might be the easiest way to go, but  
>>>>> submitters
>>>>> would not necessarily be expecting a response--more of a  
>>>>> comment or
>>>>> suggestion box in that case. If we're looking to start a  
>>>>> discussion with
>>>>> the user, perhaps a thread similar to the "Help" page would be  
>>>>> useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Julius B. Lucks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi SC,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We really need some way for an average user to give feedback  
>>>>>> to the SC about
>>>>>> how to make OWW better, how they currently use it, etc.    
>>>>>> Outside of the
>>>>>> survey, or someone finding the steering committee page on  
>>>>>> their own, there is
>>>>>> really no mechanism to get general community feedback on how  
>>>>>> we are doing, and
>>>>>> which direction we should take next.   I am hoping that as the  
>>>>>> SC blog is used
>>>>>> more regularly, there will be useful comments on the posts,  
>>>>>> but I don't think
>>>>>> that is enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about some sort of 'Feedback' link in the navigation bar?   
>>>>>> That way it can
>>>>>> be seen on every page so that people reaching OWW from Google  
>>>>>> for example can
>>>>>> still give feedback.  The link ideally would point to some  
>>>>>> sort of discussion
>>>>>> forum with topic threads etc., but for now should just bring  
>>>>>> up some page that
>>>>>> a user could fill in to email feedback at openwetware.org for  
>>>>>> example (email
>>>>>> being simpler for newer users than editing the wiki).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julius
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