[OWW-SC] page DOIs

[Julius B. Lucks]

I guess DOI's are one incarnation of URN's with domain-specificity to  
e-publications.  It seems really silly that the DOI registration is  
not more permanent, which more likely than not has something to do  
with revenues rather than implementing a successful URN scheme.

I'll have to read up more on DOI's to be able to discuss this more in  
a semi-informed manner.  For now, I don't see any problem with what  
you proposed, although it doesn't seem to be any different than just  
giving oww url's with an oldid parameter.  Perhaps masking these  
url's with other url's won't change the reviewers opinions once they  
figure out what is going on.  It seems like we need something more on  
the lines of a culture change where people find it acceptable to  
reference wiki pages.  Then we can use whatever name archiving scheme  
we want.

Can anyone share recent experience on reviewers not accepting oww  
url's as references?

Cheers,

Julius

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On Sep 18, 2007, at 3:11 PM, Austin Che wrote:

>
>> What is the big cost associated with DOI's?  Is it registration of  
>> the
>> numbers, hardware costs, or both?  Perhaps if we don't  automatically
>> register every page, but only pages that people request  to be
>> registered, we could keep the cost down.  Also, what  organization
>> would we contact to possibly get DOI registration  donated to us?  I
>> wouldn't mind pursuing this, as I think it is a  very important issue
>> for us in terms of 'legitimizing' oww content.
>
>     Here are the registration agencies.
>     http://doi.org/registration_agencies.html
>
>     I don't know anything else about DOIs. The 25K/year number was
>     from Sri or Jason.
>     Some lower numbers are on this page: http://www.medra.org/en/ 
> terms.htm
>
>     I actually really don't understand the purpose of DOIs. As stated
>     on that page, "If the access to the service is not renewed, the
>     persistence of DOIs is guaranteed for at least 5 years after the
>     payment of the last annual fee. In order to maintain the
>     persistence of DOIs after ceasing the use of service, the payment
>     of 0,1 euros for each document is required." so even DOIs aren't
>     guarenteed to be permanent. And if the OWW site goes down, why
>     would it matter if you could resolve a DOI anyway as the content
>     is no longer there. Thus I see no technical benefits for linking
>     to a OWW page via some indirect doi linking.
>
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