[Tango-L] FW: Music preferences

[Steve Littler]

Fascinating, Miguel.

I've never heard this viewpoint before. (Although I had heard that no 
one would dance when Gardel sings or is played, out of respect to him.)

Yes, I do not understand Castillian and if I did I probably might not 
dance during the singer's performance. I was dancing in Tampa last year 
when a live orchestra from Miami played and during one song the female 
singer sang, it was so powerful, all the dancers just stopped dancing 
and listened. When she finished the song, everyone just applauded in 
amazement and respect.

It WAS very difficult to dance while the singer was singing live. With 
recorded music it is much easier to dance when the singer is singing.

Would you dance to a recorded song with a singer?

What do you do if you start dancing to a recorded song, and half way 
through, the singer starts to sing? Do you stop on the dance floor and 
just listen? Or are you familiar enough with Tango songs to know right 
away if there is a singer in it and just not start the dance once you 
hear the first few notes?

(I have read a number of Tango song translations, and some are beyond 
sad, so in a way I am glad not to know the words, because I probably 
couldn't dance to such a sad song.)

El Stevito de Gainesville

On 7/30/2010 7:01 PM, Miguel Luque wrote:
> I respect tastes or preferences in anyone, but I think that when one 
> dance Tango, dance the music and not the lyrics
> I'm from the generation of the 40 and when I went to the Milongas with 
> orchestras an singers, when the singer did his part, nobody dancing, 
> for respect to the singer, the milingueros of my era, just dance when 
> the orchestra play instrumental.
> I had the oportunity por many years in my youth, to go to Milongas 
> where Troilo, Di Sarli, Pugliese, D'agostino, Salgan, 
> Franchini-Pontier, Piazzolla(from the 50) Basso, D'arienzo and many 
> more, play. Magnificent musicians whom to many people out the 
> Argentina don't know.
> We had extrordinary Tango singers, but the real milonguero, will no 
> offend them dancing while are singing, is a code of Tango.
> I see very often, people they call themself Tangueros( they are not) 
> dancing and talking, make jokes, flirting, etc, nothing wrong with 
> that, but is a NO No, when one is dancing Tango.
> Tango, for the real Tanguero is dancing the music, is like dancing 
> ballet which  doesn't have lyrics, you enjoy the music and the art of 
> ballet, Opera have music, but nobody dance opera. You will dance the 
> National Anthem? One can dance anything they like but something is not 
> proper.
> I know many many people that no understand castillian and don't 
> know what the lyrics is about it, how they can appreciate the lyrics? 
> Have many lyrics wroten by extraordinary poets, when we listen the 
> lyrics we enjoy the phrases with music, but when we dance Tango the 
> lyrics is not so  important.While I dancing I dance for my self, is a 
> intimate enjoy, I don't dance for others to see my dance. When a real 
> Tanguero dance, mentally and at heart,  is other component of the 
> orchestra. I feeling I'm other violin, bandoneon, bass or piano I feel 
> the tempo,spaces,rhytm, syncopa, the step come along and alone.Not all 
> Lyrics are good to dance, the only singers which is possible dance are 
> Angel Vargas with Angel D'agostino and Alberto Castillo and Enrique 
> Campos with Ricardo Tanturi
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> Milonguero Viejo (Miami)
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> > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:14:56 -0400
> > From: sl at stevelittler.com
> > To: tango-l at mit.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Music preferences
> >
> > Music with lyrics is nice when you want to dance to the singer and 
> dance
> > off beat and with delays. (But when I was a beginner I preferred to
> > dance WITHOUT lyrics so I could clearly hear the beat and dance
> > precisely on every beat.)
> >
> > So I think a mix is good to satisfy all dancers. I think 50/50 is fine.
> >
> > El Stevito de Gainesville
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