[Tango-L] Tango styles and labeling

[Floyd Baker]

American ballroom was created by Irene and Vern Castle as they
returned by boat from Europe where they 'discovered' Argentine
Tango...  

They apparently saw only the surface of the dance.., but being
ballroom people, that's all they needed...  They used it as the basis
for their own version of it...   Adding what they thought were dashing
flairs, etc...  :-/   It went over big for a decade or so here and
then was over shadowed by the Foxtrot...  Which I've heard described
as 'beautifully boreing'...   American Tango is ballroom memorized
steps to a dance that never was...  And it seems to me to now be on
the bottom rung of the ballroom ladder...

Ballroom does strange things to street dances...  I heard just
recently an instructor saying there is street Salsa and there is
Ballroom Salsa...  I guess...

As for nuevo needing it's own list?    Does the Milonga need another
list?  That is not Tango at all..., it just uses Tango leads and some
of it's steps...   Sounds like Nuevo in a way...    What about the
Vals...  I may be mistaken but was that not developed in Europe? Waltz
using Tango leads and some of it's steps...  Sounds like Nuevo in a
way.  .

As far as I'm concerned, this list should be considered as relating to
*improvisational* dancing, using Tango style of lead.    The tree with
three main trunks and many branches...

Floyd






On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:19:40 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>Tango-L was a spin-off from a Ballroom forum many
>years ago.  When it became clear that there were two
>groups/ two camps talking about two distinct dances,
>Shahrukh wisely created a forum for us.  
>
>Maybe the question should be:  Is it time to create a
>Nuevo Tango list?  It seems to me that many
>misunderstandings result from trying to discuss apples
>and oranges on this list.  Or should that be: 
>Performance/nuevo/traditional/neo/close-embrace
>milonguero [Gricel style]/V-style semi-open close
>embrace [Nito & Elba]/your own version
>here........danced
>to..................................
>
>Nancy
>--- KUROSAKA Teruhiko <kuro at bhlab.com> wrote:
>
>> > From: "Anton Stanley" <antonst at alidas.com.au>
>> 
>> > I would like the assistance of list members to
>> help me become a Tango
>> > pacifist. But first I need to understand why we
>> don't include "Tango"
>> > which most of us in the tango community label
>> Ballroom Tango, on our
>> > list of tango styles. 
>> 
>> It seems to me that any types of ballroom dance are
>> completely
>> different from what they label, and that's probably
>> why we don't
>> discuss ballroom tango.  I've danced samba, salsa
>> and tango.
>> Ballroom Samba has nothing to do with samba danced
>> in
>> Brazil, Ballroom Salsa has nothing to do with Salsa
>> danced
>> in the night clubs, and Ballroom tango doesn't look
>> to have any
>> relationship to Argentine Tango.
>> 
>> Kuro
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