[Tango-L] So what is an OPEN mean?

[larrynla@juno.com]

Jack Dylan wrote ------> "Astrid, These concepts are only of any value to the man, as leader; they have no relevance to the lady, as follower. So don't worry your pretty little head about it :-))"

Oooh, are you in deep shxx, at least if any of the women you want to dance with are on tango-l.  And putting smileys after your message doesn't make it into a joke. I hope you don't pat your partners on the head and say "Good girl!"

He also wrote ------> "The great thing about Naveira's terminology is that the lady's step is determined by her position relative to the man."

"For example; if the lady steps LF backward on the man's right side, this would be a LF back cross. This means, for example, that the man could lead her directly into a Back Ocho or a Giro to Left, both of which incorporate a LF back cross."

"But if the lady stepped LF backward on the man's left side, this would be a LF open step. This means, again for example, that the man could lead her directly into a Giro to Right, which incorprates a LF open step. He couldn't lead her directly into an Ocho without an intermediate step."

>From my perspective as a professional systems engineer, with well over a dozen years experience working for NASA and Boeing deconstructing systems (including human systems) much more complex than than the Naveira/Salas effort, I consider the Naveira/Salas terminology poorly thought out. There's a whole list of requirements for good terminology resulting from such system analyses. One of them is that labels have invariant meanings. Labels that change the way you decribe is a no-no.

Perhaps the problem is that we're using English translations. Maybe the Spanish terms are instantly crystal clear to the average Spanish speaker.

So maybe you can give us a simple explanation of just what "open" and "closed" mean.

Larry de Los Angeles


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