[Tango-L] Molinetes

[Dubravko Kakarigi]

I think the "jury is out" on this distinction. I have recently adopted the following distinction which works when I talk with those I practice with. 

I use term "molinete" to describe the sequence where the man rotates and the woman "circles," and "giro" for the sequence where both the man and the woman "circle." 

In case of a "molinete," the common axes of rotation usually coincides with man's stationary leg and that side of his body (right side if the molinete is on his left, and left if it is on his right); although, it may move from his right to his left depending on sort of movement he makes with his "free" leg and how close the woman is "circling.".

In case of a "giro," the common axes of rotation is between the two and they both circle around it. Both partners circle in the same direction, although the  distance between them may very quite a bit at different point of rotation..

In both cases, "circling" is done using some form of "grapevine" (back-side-forward-side) sequence. In case of a giro, both can use the same sequence in the same time or they may use it in "out-of-phase" fashion.

(I use term "man" for the partner who initiates the sequence and
"woman" for the partner who chooses to respond, so these roles can
dynamically change at just about any time.)

Of course, there are numerous variations on the theme and various combinations of the two which makes the whole thing so rich and open to creativity.

...dubravko
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: "lgmoseley at aol.com" <lgmoseley at aol.com>
To: tango-l at mit.edu
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:27:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Molinetes

  I had understood that 
 
 1. A giro used the basic combination of forward-side-behind-side, although not always in that order. For example, you can have side-behind-side-forward, and so on. The important point is that on the behind step the lady swivels away from the man, and if necessary the man will lead just that
 
 2. By contrast, the molinete involves the lady in walking round the man with no such swivel away from the man i.e. forward-forward-forward-forward, albeit on a circular track. It certainly feels like a pepper mill in action, which fits with the name.
 
 Both can be done at a variety of speeds and with a variety of rhythms.
 
 Is that just a local distinction which we draw here in the Forest, or is it a widely shared one? They are clearly very different figures and have very different characters and 'feels'.
 
 Brazos
 
 Laurence Moseley
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: dnovitz at lavidacondeby.com
 To: tango-l at mit.edu
 Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 4.43PM
 Subject: [Tango-L] Molinetes
 
  Well Miles, because here in Buenos Aires we call them giros...not 

molinetes.  The teachers here teach 3 steps - caminata, giros, ochos.





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