[Tango-L] Four Layers of Tango Learning

[NANCY]

Guys,

   An alternative to dancing with men is to insist
that the followers do not back-lead.  Too many women,
having been shown the steps they are expected to
produce, do them without getting a lead and fool the
leader into believing that he has made it happen. 
Thus, we get the 'automatic' cross or the never-ending
ochos going in  every beginner class.  When I have
been asked to partner a beginner, I never move until I
get the lead and they quickly figure out how to make
that happen.  If they try to force a movement with
their hands, I drop my hand from theirs.  If they give
me a verbal lead, I smile and stand my ground.  Maybe
this is why men as followers worked?  Because the men
would not/could not anticipate the lead and would not
be pushed around?

  Let us not forget that the highest compliment one
can bestow upon a follower is that "she waits well."

Nancy

   
--- "Jake Spatz (TangoDC.com)" <spatz at tangoDC.com>
wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> 
> Gary Barnes wrote:
> > But, I find it enormously difficult to convince
> men of the value of practising with other men - let
> alone attending men-only classes or practices, or
> the extreme of attending a men-only intro session.
> I know one guy, who's been dancing maybe a year, who
> refuses to attend 
> my men-only workshops because he wants to dance with
> women. (Not that 
> I've held one lately.) I tell him he's an imbecile.
> We discuss classical 
> music intermittently, and I give him dance tips
> whenever he asks, 
> although I've still never felt his embrace, or he
> mine.
> 
> If dealing with beginner men who are reluctant to
> dance with dudes, I'd 
> call them morons, or pussies, or something to get
> them riled up-- and 
> more importantly, over their stupid stone-age
> barrier. And I'd tell them 
> (the truth) that my first tango exposure was in
> another man's arms, and 
> that I learned the most from that; and if they think
> I'm full of it, 
> they can get the hell out of my class.
> 
> The two things in common about every Very Good male
> dancer I know:
>     -- They know the value of dancing with another
> dude
>     -- They've taken notes (even if they've
> discarded them)
> 
> If you actually care about helping make better
> dancers, you'd naturally 
> be infuriated at men, straight or gay, who are too
> insecure to dance 
> with each other, in order to improve. You need tips
> on persuading them? 
> Just give a damn, and let them know it.
> 
> And if they aren't convinced, tell them to take a
> hike. If you can't do 
> that, don't even bother _trying_ to persuade them.
> Find a man who can do 
> the job.
> 
> Or, just point (and laugh) at the men who walk like
> Susana Miller.
> 
> Hope that helps, brash as it is.
> 
> Jake
> DC
> 
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