[Tango-L] The Suggested Lead

[Jacob Eggers]

I want to second TFH's advice.

Dancing without a frame has been very helpful for me.

j

On Dec 31, 2007 10:49 AM, Tango For Her <tangopeer at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Feel free to start a thread on "The Frame".  Sure, you
> can say that going through the practice of leading
> with no arms is still a frame.  But, it takes away
> from the point of my post:
>
> To illustrate the suggested lead and an example of
> practicing the finer points of leading.
>
> The intent is for the follower to follow my center, my
> chest.  I suggest with my chest, she follows as far as
> SHE figures out to follow and I follow her to that
> end-point.  Actually, there is a lot of finer back and
> forth communication that goes on during this exercise.
>  It creates a heightened awareness for the leader and
> the follower.
>
> By calling it shock and awe, I guess it is being
> strongly stated that you should not try this at home!
> However, it is, actually, an exercise that will
> improve your dance.
>
> It keeps the follower and the leader on their toes and
> a fantastic way: heightened awareness.
>
> When I dance, I dance with a very light frame, most of
> the time.  However, this topic was about an exercise
> that is very beneficial.
>
> Also, in a milonga, yes, in a milonga, sometimes, when
> our connection is poor, I will make my frame so light
> that it is almost not there.
> - It makes ME more aware of leading with my center.
> - It makes ME pay more attention to what she is doing.
> - It makes my follower more aware of following my
> center.
> Then, when I strengthen my frame, the dance is much
> more beautiful.
>
> This is an example of doing the exercise with
> extremely little frame and has been proven over and
> over, again.
>
> THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK
>
> I don't mind the counterpoint arguments.  But, I just
> want to be clear, for those who are looking for ways
> to improve their lead, this method works wonders.
>
> To the many of you who write back to me, personally,
> and tell me that these principles work, thank you for
> your feedback.
>
> I think that we all find that:
> (1) those who agree don't write back to the group
> (2) those who don't agree do write to the group.
>
> So, don't let the one or two people who want to say
> "No! No! No!" detour you from learning the finer
> points of the dance.
>
>
>
>
> --- Alexis Cousein <al at sgi.com> wrote:
>
> > Tango For Her wrote:
> > > Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > "If the frame is weak, she can't track the
> > center."
> > >
> > >
> > > I just wanted to clarify ... if you go to the
> > extreme
> > > of providing no frame for your follower, here is
> > what
> > > happens:
> > >
> > No.
> >
> > If you provide no frame, there is no way to
> > communicate at all. It's like
> > having a conversation about philisophy with someone
> > with your mouth
> > taped over.
> >
> > What you name "no frame" is actually just as much a
> > frame. It's
> > just one that uses little static resistance and one
> > with a little
> > flexibility and little jerk (as defined in physics -
> > the derivative
> > of acceleration).
> >
> > It's not weak, it's light.
> >
> > If it's really weak, then the follower really has no
> > way if knowing
> > where you're going, and she has to feel it when it's
> > too late (the
> > tango equivalent to bungee jumping) when an
> > (incorrect) framing
> > relationship is eventually re-established.
> >
> > No doubt it keeps the follower in her toes, but not
> > in a good way.
> > Shock and awe should be reserved for military uses.
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