[Tango-L] The call to tango, and "gender polarization"

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On 9/30/06, David Hodgson <DHodgson at tangolabyrinth.com> wrote:
>
> Nina:
> "Yes. you can have such a partner.  But only when you yourself are
> able to bring to the experience something equivalent to what you have
> requested in such a partner.  So what would that be?"
>
>
>
> Nina, Thank you very, very much. I will have some thoughts to your first
> email tomorrow.
>
> My response I say to her:
>
> We have danced before, was it real or dream, it is of no matter. I know it
> was sacred and profane. I remember leading you to take a step. My arm
> embracing your form, my hand supporting your balance, my heart listening
> to
> your question and response, your heart beating clearly with the music.
> O, insolence I see. I will have you wait, no a little longer,, no a little
> longer,, perhaps pause.. a little longer.. Now step here.
> Though I have just nodded in clear request, I know there is thin fabric
> between you and me. Body and thought that have not acquiesced. All is
> offered, open and surrender.
> Great depths I have traveled, and I still dance. There is the mystery of
> who
> you are, but will I know how deep this is.
> You step through doors I open for you, to find stillness, a voice for even
> one moment.
> Can you be sure of where I may lead you? As much as I can be sure of your
> depths.
> But one thing we both know, shared through our heart, gaze, step, heat and
> Tango.
> I am your Lead, you are my Follow.
> Is there a question.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> Of
> Nina Pesochinsky
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:35 AM
> To: TANGO-L at mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The call to tango, and "gender polarization"
>
> Hi, David,
>
> Yes. you can have such a partner.  But only when you yourself are
> able to bring to the experience something equivalent to what you have
> requested in such a partner.  So what would that be?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Nina
>
> At 07:58 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:
> >Nina, I liked your email earlier a lot and have a few thoughts and about
> >tango in a bit but first.
> >
> >I like the menu. So Nina, for my platter could I have Morticia Adams (TV
> >show), Maggie Gyllenhaal, Laura San Giacomo in one partner with lots of
> >resolved life experience, a good dollop of humorous sarcasm, a strong
> >underlying Tango expression, clarity of personal expression, and has a
> >penchant for speaking Spanish in a smooth sensual way.
> >For music Biagi, pugliasi and desarli, with a large sprig of Piazzola and
> >small sprigs of Delirium, and Peter Murphy.
> >A cabernet from Mendoza that has warmth, a little tannin, lingers nicely,
> >with a nice finish of allure.
> >Will not ask for a wonderful dance experience, will discover that as we
> move
> >through the evening.
> >Thank you.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> Of
> >nina at earthnet.net
> >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:03 PM
> >To: tango-l at mit.edu
> >Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The call to tango, and "gender polarization"
> >
> >People are free to follow or not to follow the codes, and their choice
> >is reflected int he consequences.  There is a lot of whining going on
> >in all tango communities about the social discomfort, not dancing
> >enough, etc.  But the bottom line is that tango experience is what you
> >make of it.  No one is going to bring to anyone on the platter a
> >fabulous dance experience, a great milonga, good connection, beautiful
> >music, respect, a great dance partner and all those other things that
> >that everyone wishes and hopes for.  If those great things happen,
> >then marvelous and a bit thank you and appreciation are in order.  But
> >eople just need to decide what they want and go and create it.  And
> >the tango codes help them to have the same language with others who
> >are also there to create their own experience.
> >
> >Nina
> >
> >
> >Quoting Caroline Polack <runcarolinerun at hotmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > > Just when I promised myself never to post to Tango-L again....after
> > > reading this particular sentence, I nearly choked on my coffee.
> > >
> > > Codes and Traditions of Tango may have INTENDED to protect dignity and
> > > emotions but they are not always adhered to as much as we would like.
> > > No need to explain this here because I'm quite sure everyone has had
> > > bad moments at Milongas.  If those said codes and traditions are not
> > > adhered to in a consistent fashion then they are not really
> > > traditional, are they? After all the reading I've done on the subject
> > > of Tango - particularly from personal perspectives - it seems that
> > > tango evokes as much anguish and dejection as it does passion and joy.
> > >
> > > As for code of conduct - hmmm....the only code of conduct that I see
> > > being respected is that an embrace is just an embrace, not a
> suggestion
> > > that the man/woman wants anything more from you than a mutual
> enjoyment
> > > of a tanda.  Asides from that, there are always moments of discomforts
> > > in a social setting such as a milonga.
> > >
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