[Tango-L] The call to tango, and "gender polarization"

[David Hodgson]

Nina: 
"Yes. you can have such a partner.  But only when you yourself are 
able to bring to the experience something equivalent to what you have 
requested in such a partner.  So what would that be?"



Nina, Thank you very, very much. I will have some thoughts to your first
email tomorrow.

My response I say to her:

We have danced before, was it real or dream, it is of no matter. I know it
was sacred and profane. I remember leading you to take a step. My arm
embracing your form, my hand supporting your balance, my heart listening to
your question and response, your heart beating clearly with the music.
O, insolence I see. I will have you wait, no a little longer,, no a little
longer,, perhaps pause.. a little longer.. Now step here.
Though I have just nodded in clear request, I know there is thin fabric
between you and me. Body and thought that have not acquiesced. All is
offered, open and surrender.
Great depths I have traveled, and I still dance. There is the mystery of who
you are, but will I know how deep this is.
You step through doors I open for you, to find stillness, a voice for even
one moment.
Can you be sure of where I may lead you? As much as I can be sure of your
depths.
But one thing we both know, shared through our heart, gaze, step, heat and
Tango.
I am your Lead, you are my Follow.
Is there a question.



-----Original Message-----
From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
Nina Pesochinsky
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:35 AM
To: TANGO-L at mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The call to tango, and "gender polarization"

Hi, David,

Yes. you can have such a partner.  But only when you yourself are 
able to bring to the experience something equivalent to what you have 
requested in such a partner.  So what would that be?

Thank you.

Nina

At 07:58 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:
>Nina, I liked your email earlier a lot and have a few thoughts and about
>tango in a bit but first.
>
>I like the menu. So Nina, for my platter could I have Morticia Adams (TV
>show), Maggie Gyllenhaal, Laura San Giacomo in one partner with lots of
>resolved life experience, a good dollop of humorous sarcasm, a strong
>underlying Tango expression, clarity of personal expression, and has a
>penchant for speaking Spanish in a smooth sensual way.
>For music Biagi, pugliasi and desarli, with a large sprig of Piazzola and
>small sprigs of Delirium, and Peter Murphy.
>A cabernet from Mendoza that has warmth, a little tannin, lingers nicely,
>with a nice finish of allure.
>Will not ask for a wonderful dance experience, will discover that as we
move
>through the evening.
>Thank you.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
>nina at earthnet.net
>Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:03 PM
>To: tango-l at mit.edu
>Subject: Re: [Tango-L] The call to tango, and "gender polarization"
>
>People are free to follow or not to follow the codes, and their choice
>is reflected int he consequences.  There is a lot of whining going on
>in all tango communities about the social discomfort, not dancing
>enough, etc.  But the bottom line is that tango experience is what you
>make of it.  No one is going to bring to anyone on the platter a
>fabulous dance experience, a great milonga, good connection, beautiful
>music, respect, a great dance partner and all those other things that
>that everyone wishes and hopes for.  If those great things happen,
>then marvelous and a bit thank you and appreciation are in order.  But
>eople just need to decide what they want and go and create it.  And
>the tango codes help them to have the same language with others who
>are also there to create their own experience.
>
>Nina
>
>
>Quoting Caroline Polack <runcarolinerun at hotmail.com>:
>
>
> > Just when I promised myself never to post to Tango-L again....after
> > reading this particular sentence, I nearly choked on my coffee.
> >
> > Codes and Traditions of Tango may have INTENDED to protect dignity and
> > emotions but they are not always adhered to as much as we would like.
> > No need to explain this here because I'm quite sure everyone has had
> > bad moments at Milongas.  If those said codes and traditions are not
> > adhered to in a consistent fashion then they are not really
> > traditional, are they? After all the reading I've done on the subject
> > of Tango - particularly from personal perspectives - it seems that
> > tango evokes as much anguish and dejection as it does passion and joy.
> >
> > As for code of conduct - hmmm....the only code of conduct that I see
> > being respected is that an embrace is just an embrace, not a suggestion
> > that the man/woman wants anything more from you than a mutual enjoyment
> > of a tanda.  Asides from that, there are always moments of discomforts
> > in a social setting such as a milonga.
> >
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>
>
>
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