[Tango-L] "Stay away from self appointed tango teachers."

[Derik Rawson]

Dear Trini:

--- "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos at yahoo.com>
wrote:

"it is rude for you to place your values on others on
something so personal and intimate."

The problem I have with the "close embrace all the
time" people is ignorance, and then them trying to
spread that ignorance around, by promoting their own
inexperienced teachers.  If the "close embrace all the
time people" would just dance the way they want to and
leave other people alone (not try to teach their
ignorance), then I would have no problem with them at
all.

I agree with you that personal taste is OK.  Everyone
has their own tango.  I have said this many times.  We
dancers should choose our tango teachers ourselves. We
should not have a tango teachers recruit and choose us
as their victims, and tell us that we are
inexperienced fools.

Derik
d.rawson at rawsonweb.com


--- "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Dear Derik,
> 
> In your post, you seem to blame the close-embrace
> style for your boredom rather than, well, yourself. 
> If you don't want to do close-embrace all the time,
> fine.  But why place a value judgement on those who
> do?  
> 
> If you do not understand why people choose to do
> close-embrace all-the-time, then I can only guess
> that
> 1) you don't know enough about close-embrace to keep
> it interesting, 2) you do not value the same things
> close-embrace people do, or 3) both.  There's
> nothing
> wrong with that, but it is rude for you to place
> your
> values on others on something so personal and
> intimate.  "Keeping the embrace closed all the time
> is
> like keeping the bandondeon closed all the
> time...ridiculous!" is a value judgement.
> 
> If I am misreading you, then let me apologize in
> advance.  I do wish, though, that you would express
> yourself in a more thoughtful manner.
> 
> Trini de Pittsburgh
> 
> 
> 
> --- Derik Rawson <rawsonweb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Trini:
> > 
> > What are you two talking about....lol.  I do front
> > ochos all the in variations of close and open
> > embrace.
> >  As you have heard it said many times, "The
> embrace
> > opens and closes like a bandondeon."  My point is
> to
> > vary the embrace.  You should know how to be
> > connected
> > with your partner, no matter what.  
> > Keeping the embrace closed all the time is like
> > keeping the bandondeon closed all the
> > time...ridiculous!  My view is that the
> inexperience
> > and lack of understanding probably falls more on
> the
> > side of the people who do close embrace all the
> > time,
> > and their teachers who purposely eliminate
> teaching
> > the front ocho entirely....like Tine.  Give me a
> > break....lol.
> > 
> > Derik
> > d.rawson at rawsonweb.com
> > 
> > 
> > --- "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Derik,
> > > 
> > > Trini, here.  As someone who dances
> close-embrace
> > > most
> > > of the time, I can tell you that it is quite
> > > possible
> > > to do a front ocho in close-embrace.  Your posts
> > > indicate that your relative inexperience lets
> you
> > > believe that such is not possible.  I suggest
> that
> > > if
> > > you worked more on the close-embrace you will
> > > discover
> > > a lot more options that you are missing out on. 
> > And
> > > you might understand better why so many people,
> > not
> > > just Americans, enjoy dancing close-embrace
> > > "all-the-time".  
> > > 
> > > Personally, dancing close allows me to better
> > > communicate with my partner.  This is the spice
> > that
> > > adds a lot of variety to the dance...to those
> men
> > > who
> > > can listen.
> > > 
> > > Happy tangos, whatever your style.
> > > Trini de Pittsburgh
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Derik Rawson <rawsonweb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Dear Sean:
> > > > 
> > > > 1.  I chose Andres because I like the way he
> > > dances.
> > > > 2.  Andres would probably tell you and all the
> > > other
> > > > "close embrace all the time people", to open
> up
> > > the
> > > > embrace briefly to allow a front ocho, and
> then
> > > > close
> > > > the embrace again afterwords.  Variety is the
> > > spice
> > > > of
> > > > life, right?
> > > > 
> > > > Derik
> > > > d.rawson at rawsonweb.com
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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