SAP Wokflow Substitution
stephane
s.bailleul at free.fr
Sat Mar 24 11:19:24 EDT 2012
Baba,
What I would check :
- In the back end table HRUS_D2 : are the substitute really
present ?
- do a refresh in the back end of SWU_OBUF (legend says you have to
do it twice)
=> try again
I recently had some trouble in the UWL with the substitute not showing
up after the SWU_OBUF everything went fine
Keep us inform
Le samedi 24 mars 2012 à 11:01 -0400, sap-wug-request at mit.edu a écrit :
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:01:42 -0500
> From: Baba Jammi <jmc_sap at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
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> Sure, thanks Stephane.
>
> On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:58 AM, stephane <s.bailleul at free.fr> wrote:
>
> > Baba,
> >
> > Have you also check that the substitutes are not in the group of excluded agent ?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Stephane
> >
> > Le vendredi 23 mars 2012 ? 16:01 -0400, sap-wug-request at mit.edu a ?crit :
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> >> 1. RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution (Mike Pokraka)
> >> 2. RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution (Baba Jammi)
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:23:14 -0000 (GMT)
> >> From: "Mike Pokraka" <wug at workflowconnections.com>
> >> Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <76a32e5cc3b16f10e36883e6d34446eb.squirrel at g.mail.aaisp.net.uk>
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> >>
> >> How are you determining the agent? If you have code that looks at
> >> substitution then send it to agent B then agent A won't ever see it. You
> >> need to send it to A in all instances.
> >>
> >> On Thu, March 22, 2012 11:03 pm, Baba Jammi wrote:
> >> > Hi Jocelyn,
> >> > ??
> >> > We are creating substitution from the backend using function module
> >> > SAP_WAPI_SUBSTITUTE_MAINTAIN but tasks are processed from UWL. I tried
> >> > unreserving the workitem through backend function module, but no luck.
> >> > ??
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Baba
> >> >
> >> > --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Dart, Jocelyn <jocelyn.dart at sap.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Dart, Jocelyn <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
> >> > Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> > To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> > Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 5:29 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Baba,
> >> > Maybe take a step back and tell us:
> >> > a) Which inbox you are using (SAP Inbox or UWL)
> >> > b) How the substitution is being created
> >> >
> >> > I'm wondering if you have defined the substitution in the usual way.
> >> > With substitution (regardless of whether it's active or passive)?? both
> >> > the original recipient and the substitute can access the work items during
> >> > the substitution.
> >> > The only reason for them being hidden from one or the other is if a work
> >> > item has been reserved by one of them.
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Jocelyn
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> >> > Of Sheldon Oxenberg
> >> > Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 5:30 AM
> >> > To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> > Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> >
> >> > Please see SAP Note 74000 -
> >> > Q&A: Substitution in Business Workflow
> >> >
> >> > Regards.
> >> >
> >> > SHELDON OXENBERG
> >> > System Architect Principal Leader
> >> > LMP Technical Architect, SAP Workflow
> >> > CSC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From:??????Baba Jammi <jmc_sap at yahoo.com>
> >> > To:?? ??????"SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> > Date:??????03/22/2012 01:36 PM
> >> > Subject:?? ?? ?? ?? RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> > Sent by:?? ?? ?? ?? sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes, even I expected the same. But it's not the case. When I see in the
> >> > log, tasks are only delivered to B, not to
> >> > A.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Baba
> >> >
> >> > --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Stephens, Monique S L <moniques at bcm.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ?? From: Stephens, Monique S L <moniques at bcm.edu>
> >> > ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> > ?? To: "'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> > ?? Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 11:32 AM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? Normally with workflow substitution, the documents will still route to
> >> > A and B can pick them up.?? If you look at
> >> > ?? the documents themselves, can you see whose inbox they are actually in?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? Monique Stephens
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> >> > Behalf Of Baba Jammi
> >> > ?? Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:30 AM
> >> > ?? To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> > ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Stephen.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Its user B substitues for A.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So, after date expiration, A should see all the workitems which were
> >> > delivered to B during the substituion period.
> >> > This is not happening.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Baba
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Stephens, Monique S L <moniques at bcm.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ?? From: Stephens, Monique S L <moniques at bcm.edu>
> >> > ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> > ?? To: "'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> > ?? Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 8:48 AM
> >> > ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? If user A is the substitute as your first sentence
> >> > implies, then it would not remain in A???s inbox
> >> > ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? after the expiration date.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? However, your statements below are confusing because first you have A
> >> > as the substitute, then B.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Monique Stephens
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> >> > Of Baba Jammi
> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:41 AM
> >> > To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> > Subject: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Not sure if this is how workflow substition works or I am missing
> >> > something. Please advise.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > User A substitutes for B for period 03/22 thru 03/25.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 03/23 workflow finds agent A as approver for a task and delivers task
> >> > to agent B as he is substitute.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Agent B, takes NO action on the task.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 03/25, workflow substitution exprires.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 03/26, task still appearing in Agent B's inbox whereas I was expecting
> >> > it to appear in agent A's inbox as
> >> > substitution expired.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > Baba
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > SAP-WUG mailing list
> >> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu
> >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >> >
> >> > ?? _______________________________________________
> >> > ?? SAP-WUG mailing list
> >> > ?? SAP-WUG at mit.edu
> >> > ?? http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > SAP-WUG mailing list
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> >> >
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> >> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu
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> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: Baba Jammi <jmc_sap at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <1332532884.45180.YahooMailClassic at web111707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> That was it Mike !!!
> >> ?
> >> I found there was code which was determining Agent B and routing workflow to Agent B directly for approval.
> >> ?
> >> Thank you ALL and Happy Weekend.
> >> ?
> >> Regards,
> >> Baba
> >> ?
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 3/23/12, Mike Pokraka <wug at workflowconnections.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Mike Pokraka <wug at workflowconnections.com>
> >> Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> Date: Friday, March 23, 2012, 11:23 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> How are you determining the agent? If you have code that looks at
> >> substitution then send it to agent B then agent A won't ever see it. You
> >> need to send it to A in all instances.
> >>
> >> On Thu, March 22, 2012 11:03 pm, Baba Jammi wrote:
> >> > Hi Jocelyn,
> >> > ??
> >> > We are creating substitution from the backend using function module
> >> > SAP_WAPI_SUBSTITUTE_MAINTAIN but tasks are processed from UWL. I tried
> >> > unreserving the workitem through backend function module, but no luck.
> >> > ??
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Baba
> >> >
> >> > --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Dart, Jocelyn <jocelyn.dart at sap.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Dart, Jocelyn <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
> >> > Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> > To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> > Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 5:29 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Baba,
> >> > Maybe take a step back and tell us:
> >> > a) Which inbox you are using (SAP Inbox or UWL)
> >> > b) How the substitution is being created
> >> >
> >> > I'm wondering if you have defined the substitution in the usual way.
> >> > With substitution (regardless of whether it's active or passive)?? both
> >> > the original recipient and the substitute can access the work items during
> >> > the substitution.
> >> > The only reason for them being hidden from one or the other is if a work
> >> > item has been reserved by one of them.
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Jocelyn
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> >> > Of Sheldon Oxenberg
> >> > Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 5:30 AM
> >> > To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> > Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> >
> >> > Please see SAP Note 74000 -
> >> > Q&A: Substitution in Business Workflow
> >> >
> >> > Regards.
> >> >
> >> > SHELDON OXENBERG
> >> > System Architect Principal Leader
> >> > LMP Technical Architect, SAP Workflow
> >> > CSC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From:??????Baba Jammi <jmc_sap at yahoo.com>
> >> > To:?? ??????"SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> > Date:??????03/22/2012 01:36 PM
> >> > Subject:?? ?? ?? ?? RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> > Sent by:?? ?? ?? ?? sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes, even I expected the same. But it's not the case. When I see in the
> >> > log, tasks are only delivered to B, not to
> >> > A.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Baba
> >> >
> >> > --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Stephens, Monique S L <moniques at bcm.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ?? From: Stephens, Monique S L <moniques at bcm.edu>
> >> > ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> > ?? To: "'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> > ?? Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 11:32 AM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? Normally with workflow substitution, the documents will still route to
> >> > A and B can pick them up.?? If you look at
> >> > ?? the documents themselves, can you see whose inbox they are actually in?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? Monique Stephens
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> >> > Behalf Of Baba Jammi
> >> > ?? Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:30 AM
> >> > ?? To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> > ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Stephen.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Its user B substitues for A.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So, after date expiration, A should see all the workitems which were
> >> > delivered to B during the substituion period.
> >> > This is not happening.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Baba
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Thu, 3/22/12, Stephens, Monique S L <moniques at bcm.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ?? From: Stephens, Monique S L <moniques at bcm.edu>
> >> > ?? Subject: RE: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> > ?? To: "'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> > ?? Date: Thursday, March 22, 2012, 8:48 AM
> >> > ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? If user A is the substitute as your first sentence
> >> > implies, then it would not remain in A???s inbox
> >> > ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? after the expiration date.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ?? However, your statements below are confusing because first you have A
> >> > as the substitute, then B.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Monique Stephens
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> >> > Of Baba Jammi
> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:41 AM
> >> > To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> > Subject: SAP Wokflow Substitution
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Not sure if this is how workflow substition works or I am missing
> >> > something. Please advise.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > User A substitutes for B for period 03/22 thru 03/25.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 03/23 workflow finds agent A as approver for a task and delivers task
> >> > to agent B as he is substitute.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Agent B, takes NO action on the task.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 03/25, workflow substitution exprires.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 03/26, task still appearing in Agent B's inbox whereas I was expecting
> >> > it to appear in agent A's inbox as
> >> > substitution expired.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > Baba
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > SAP-WUG mailing list
> >> > SAP-WUG at mit.edu
> >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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