Backgorund job that generated a workflow itemwith- the problem is solved :-)
Mike Pokraka
wug at workflowconnections.com
Mon Oct 11 06:54:58 EDT 2010
I know what you mean about external consultants and documentation, they
keep me in business :-)
However I would point out that it's not always their fault. On more than
one occasion I have suggested doco towards the end of my engagement but
been specifically asked to add more functionality or do other bits of
work.
Consultancies and projects have budgets that overrun and it's usually the
doco that suffers.
Cheers,
Mike
On Fri, October 8, 2010 8:53 am, Mintchev Alexander, Mag. wrote:
>
> Dear Paul,
> Dear Keith,
>
> Dear Jimmy!
>
> Thank all of you for the valuable suggestions and help. I was able to
> solve the problem, following in the last step the advice of Paul to search
> for the where-used-list of other function modules that start a workflow -
> namely in my case- SWW_WI_START.
> Then based on the program name, that starts the worfkow, the basis team
> determined the back ground job name that executed the program in the
> night- let us call it - MY_BACKGROUND_JOB
> It finally turned out, that MY_BACKGROUND_JOB was rescheduled very closely
> after another background job- ANOTHER_BACKGROUND_JOB, so that actually the
> result of MY_BACKGROUND_JOB were therefore jeopardised.
>
> The solution was simply to reschedule MY_BACKGROUND_JOB for a later start.
>
> @ Keith: Of course, it would be much easier to aks the author of the
> workflow- but he is an external consultant, who is not more at the company
> (and has not docuemnted his work) :-)))
>
>
> Thank all of you and have a nice weekend!
>
>
> Kind regards: Alexander
>
>
> -----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] Im Auftrag
> von Paul.Bakker at osr.treasury.qld.gov.au
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. Oktober 2010 01:08
> An: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Betreff: Re: Backgorund job that generated a workflow itemwith
> aparticularuser-how can I determine the job's name?
>
> Hey Alex,
>
> (1) There are other ways of starting workflows directly, besides
> SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW Try searching for function modules with the
> pattern SW*START*. For example, SWW_WI_START.
> But are you sure this workflow was started directly?
>
> (2) RFKK_MASS_ACT_SINGLE_JOBis a generic program for executing mass
> activities in the background (such as clearing, dunning etc) So it will
> always call another program, which then triggers the workflow.
> (if applicable, have a look in transaction FKJOXTR to see which mass
> activities are scheduled at 2am).
>
> (3) If you look at what your workflow does, and what data it uses, you can
> probably work out what kind of mass activity started it (e.g., clearing,
> correspondence,)
>
> (4) Finally, if this is a custom workflow being triggered from a SAP
> program, you should probably look through BADis, enhancements, and perhaps
> even FI-CA events (if applicable - see transaction FQEVENTS)
>
> hope this helps
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> "Mintchev
> Alexander, Mag."
> <Alexander.Mintch To
> ev at biac.at> "SAP Workflow Users' Group"
> Sent by: <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> sap-wug-bounces at m cc
> it.edu
> Subject
> Backgorund job that generated a
> 07/10/2010 02:28 workflow item with
> AM aparticularuser-how can I determine
> the job's name?
>
> Please respond to
> "SAP Workflow
> Users' Group"
> <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Jimmy!
> Hello Keith!
>
> Thank both of you for the good advices.
>
> I ve tried the Jimmy's advice - namely to search for the where used list
> of the fucntion module SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW, but I found only results
> from standard SAP programs or classes. (See the attached file
> SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW-where-used-list.HTM)
>
> I have meanwhile noticed that the workflow item I am interested in has
> been created on 2 October 2010 at 02:50:08 by the user UC4BASIS, as shown
> below:
>
> (Embedded image moved to file: pic32119.gif)
>
> As Keith Gardiner suggested, I have sought for all background jobs active
> at the time my work item has been created ( using the transaction SM37),
> and found out only 10 relevant background jobs:
>
> (Embedded image moved to file: pic20577.gif)
>
>
> All these backgorund jobs actually execute one and the same program -
> RFKK_MASS_ACT_SINGLE_JOB - using different variants. The stupid thing is
> that the program RFKK_MASS_ACT_SINGLE_JOB is not presented in the attached
> file SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW-where-used-list.HTM, which means, that it
> does not direclty start my workflow. Or am I wrong?
>
> Do you have any ideas how to proceed?
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> Kind regards: Alexander
>
>
> Von: sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU] Im Auftrag
> von Jimmy Sun
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. Oktober 2010 14:42
> An: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Betreff: Re: Backgorund job that generated a workflow item with
> aparticularuser-how can I determine the job's name?
>
> Alexander,
> In you case, I'd suggest you do a where used search of function module
> SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW. and hope a Z* report will come up. If so check if
> the Z* report is scheduled in any JOB.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jimmy
>
> On 10/6/10, Mintchev Alexander, Mag. <Alexander.Mintchev at biac.at> wrote:
> Hello Keith!
>
> Thank you very much for your prompt and relevant reply.
> I already talked to your BASIS team - it is difficult for them to locate
> the right background job, cause we have many such jobs started by the
> same user UC4BASIS.
> You are right - we have many "bespoke" FS-CM workflows that are
> triggered by BRF events.
>
>
> However, the particular workflow I am concerned in is not triggered by
> an
> event (see the attached pictire). How can I find out which program
> starts
> it? Poinitng on the "Workflow Started" step from its SWDD definition
> and
> then clicking on the "Basic data" button just delivers me an emtpy
> "Start
> events" tab, an empty "Start forms" tab, everything (apart from
> tehcnical information tab and abbreviation) is empty.
>
> Thank you very much once again!
>
> Kind regards: Alexander
>
>
>
> Von: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] Im Auftrag
> von Gardiner,Keith (Insurance & Investor Services)
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. Oktober 2010 12:39
> An: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Betreff: RE: Backgorund job that generated a workflow item with a
> particularuser-how can I determine the job's name?
>
>
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
>
>
>
>
> If you look at the workflow definition WS90000049, you should be able to
> find the event that started the workflow. This may have been created
> from
> BRF or from FM¡¯s SAP_WAPI_CREATE_EVENT or less likely
> SWW_WI_CREATE_VIA_EVENT.
>
>
>
>
>
> As the workflow seems to be bespoke, you could look through the BRF
> actions to find a bespoke BRF Action that starts this workflow or if
> started by program, then look in bespoke programs for the above FM¡¯s
> and
> see if you can find the one that uses this event.
>
>
>
>
>
> Another alternative is to look at jobs in SM37 for user UC4BASIS if this
> is a background job, and see if they set the workflow going. Or just
> speak to your Basis team to see what user UC4BASIS is used for.
>
>
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> ________________________________________________
>
> Keith Gardiner
> P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
> Of Mintchev Alexander, Mag.
> Sent: 06 October 2010 11:03
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: Backgorund job that generated a workflow item with a particular
> user-how can I determine the job's name?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear SAP WUG Users!
>
>
> I am working as a workflow specialist in SAP FS-CM and I need your
> advice
> in the following topic:
>
>
> How can I determine the job name of a programm that generated a workflow
> item out of the workflow pattern WS90000049 with the username UC4BASIS?
>
>
> Some hints I know about the job:
>
> System / Mandt
> IAP (120)
> Claim:
> 2802066859
>
> The job has created a workflow item with ID
> 4072344
> The job that created the workflow item on / at
> 20101002,005,008.3792930
>
> The job that created the workflow item with the text
> "Open items for claim"
>
> The job that created the workflow item for the user
> ATDREU_M
>
> Key address object
> USR30000000000065
>
> Call Back Funtion module:
> SWP_CALLBACK_WI_DONE
>
>
>
>
>
> (Embedded image moved to file: pic10737.gif)PBrush
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you very much!
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards: Alexander Mintchev
> BIAC
> Vienna Insurance Group
>
>
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