Workflow Start Conditions

Wed Nov 10 15:42:55 EST 2010

My issue was solved ... but to be honest, I did not get to try your 
suggestions ... as it was a production issue and I was in a time crunch. 

I could not get the start condition activated ... neither through SWDD nor 
through SWU_COND.  Crazy thing is, when in SWDD, looking at the start 
event, I could click on the start condition box/button and it showed the 
conditions.  I could not get anything to work.   So ..... being in a rush 
.... 

I deleted the start event of the workflow and transported.
Then, I add back the start event ... with out the start condition ... and 
transported.
Then, I add the start condition to the start event and transported.

This seems to have gotten everything back in the proper state ... though I 
really don't know what caused it to be wrong in the first place.

Thank you for your suggestions.  I have filed them away for the next time 
workflow frustrates me!

From:   "Sample, Rick" <Rick.Sample at graybar.com>
To:     "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
Date:   11/09/2010 08:00 AM
Subject:        RE: Workflow Start Conditions
Sent by:        sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu

Yea, probably why I never used them. Nice reminder though. I guess if I 
ever need to check one simple flag on an object like block record or 
something I would use it. But then again, I didn't see any option "if 
other wf already exists, don't start new…" 

Berry, did this answer your question? You solve your issue?

From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf 
Of Rick Bakker
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:50 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: Workflow Start Conditions

You can't get much simpler than Start Conditions! Click, enter condition, 
save!

By the way, if the Start Condition is inactive you can see it by the 
button being grey instead of green or red in SWDD.
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Sample, Rick <Rick.Sample at graybar.com> 
wrote:
I never use Start Conditions. After reading last post, I recall looking at 
this many years ago. 
I have used CFM since the beginning. Any advantages to using this over 
simple CFM?

From: sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Rick Bakker
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:06 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: Workflow Start Conditions

Hi Berry,

What is probably happening is that the Start Condition itself is not 
active. To see this, go to tx SWB_COND and look for your start condition - 
if you created it via SWDD then it will be in there with the workflow's 
number (WS....) attached to it. If it you see a red square then it's not 
active. Happens sometimes. Click on it to make it green.

When you delete it and it still appears to be there - did you do a 
SWU_OBUF?

regards
Rick Bakker
hanabi technology
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Sample, Rick <Rick.Sample at graybar.com> 
wrote:
Hi Berry,

Need more information. Not sure if I completely understand your meanings 
like start condition, clean up, delete, criteria, etc. 
A little vague you see. 

Start condition? Meaning check function module? Start events just says, on 
this event, start. No conditions on that screen that I know of anyway. 

If you have a WF with something like bus2032.CREATED with no CFM, it will 
start. 
If you have a CFM assigned and whatever you are evaluating does not raise 
WF off, it will start. 

What client you dev and testing in? If you develop in say RD0-110 and test 
in 120, you must SCC1 the type linkage to that client. 

How are you testing? SWLD and triggering or via an actual event from 
something like a sales order change? 

More than happy to help, just need more info.

Rick Sample | SAP Workflow Analyst/Developer
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From: sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at MIT.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Berry Martin
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:01 AM
To: sap-wug at MIT.EDU
Subject: Workflow Start Conditions

Having some issues with workflow start conditions and need some 
recommendations. 

For some reason, the start condition does not appear to be working.  When 
I look at the definition in SWDD->Basic Data ->Start Events, I see the 
condition.  When I open the conditions and test them in the editor, they 
are evaluated properly (meaning it reads the data correctly and gives the 
appropriate response).  When I kick off the event, using data that should 
not pass the start condition, the workflow starts ... almost like it did 
not have a start condition. 

The approach I have been trying to take is to delete the start condition 
and start over.  Some that is concerning me is that even though I remove 
the start condition from SWDD->Basic Data ->Start Events, when I click on 
the condition button/box, I still see all the start condition criteria ... 
almost like something is not getting cleaned up when I am deleting. 

I know this is a little vague, but any ideas for trouble shooting will be 
welcomed. 

Thanks, 

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