Beginner's books

Mon Feb 8 03:21:17 EST 2010

>From different userid's I do hope?
Otherwise we can fight our little personal wars there!

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>BTW, an SDN post also get rejected automatically after 5 reports.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Rick Bakker
>> Sent: 06 February 2010 21:34
>> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
>> Subject: Re: RE: Beginner's books
>>
>> Happened to me as well. I gave an honest though possibly incorrect
>> answer to a question (nothing controversial, I can assure you) and it
>> got deleted. I did get an email saying it had been deleted but with no
>> details of who did it or a reasonable explanation why.
>>
>> Since then I haven't posted as much. Beware of over-eager moderators!
>>
>> If I can find the email, I'll send it to you.
>>
>> Rick Bakker
>> Hanabi Technology
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Mike Pokraka
>> <wug at workflowconnections.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Koenraad,
>> >
>> > As an SCN moderator (1), I find this a little bit concerning as
>> things
>> > should not work that way. Could you please let me know some more
>> details if
>> > you still have the info, and I can look into this. From my part I
>> certainly
>> > never delete posts unless they are way out of line - usually I edit
>> them
>> > with some explanatory comments. Also, forum moderators are supposed
>> to be
>> > approachable rather than the 'can't compete' view you describe.
>> >
>> > You can let me know via private mail - I just wanted to post this on
>> the
>> > list in case anyone else had such experiences.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > (1) Although I much prefer the WUG for it's volume and quality of
>> posts!
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>> >> Behalf Of JANSSENS Koenraad
>> >> Sent: 27 January 2010 08:29
>> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
>> >> Subject: RE: RE: Beginner's books
>> >>
>> >> It was my pleasure.. because thanks to this thread I now know that
>> its
>> >> worthwhile to buy the second edition of the workflow bible while
>> >> already having the first one.
>> >> A thread of my name asking exactly this was once deleted from the
>> sap
>> >> sdn forums as not relevant to the subject it was posted under.
>>  (which
>> >> I still find incorrectly deleted but you can't compete off course
>> which
>> >> those whom practically live on those forums.. gather enough points..
>> >> etc etc..)
>> >>
>> >> I can go and spend money again... :)
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>> >> Behalf Of Florin Wach
>> >> >Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:16 AM
>> >> >To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>> >> >Subject: Re: RE: Beginner's books
>> >> >
>> >> >correction on one of the book's titles:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code"
>> >> >(Object Technology Series)by Martin Fowler (Author) and others
>> (Beck,
>> >> Brant, Opdyke)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks to Koenraad for pointing that out :-)
>> >> >
>> >> >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> >> >Datum: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:57:22 +0100
>> >> >Von: "Florin Wach" <florin.wach at gmx.net>
>> >> >An: "SAP Workflow Users\' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>> >> >Betreff: Re: RE: Beginner\'s books
>> >> >
>> >> >A big hello on everbody again,
>> >> >
>> >> >thank you all for the various replies to my previous question
>> >> ...before the discussion leads to another emphasis,
>> >> >which it is about to go, ... so let me please throw in a small gap:
>> >> >
>> >> >As far as I've understood, the one and only highly recommended
>> >> (reference) book is the
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Practical Workflow for SAP" (2nd edition)
>> >> >==========================================
>> >> >
>> >> > in its newer edition from May 2009.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I have looked through the book's table of content and found very
>> >> useful topics and it seems to cover nearly all
>> >> >topics from the basics up to the more sophisticated ones.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >To follow up on Mike's statement: Well I was a bit wondering too,
>> as
>> >> my motivation to ask this question was indeed
>> >> >to HAVE a reference book at the customer's site. I already have an
>> >> ABAP reference, an OO-Guide and a fabilous book
>> >> >"How to improve the design of existing code", which I myself could
>> >> recommended to any SAP employee and everone else
>> >> >who's working with pre-existing code ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >So take care, read more, and with the very best wishes,
>> >> >Florin
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> >> >> Datum: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:33:49 -0000
>> >> >> Von: "Mike Pokraka" <wug at workflowconnections.com>
>> >> >> An: "\'SAP Workflow Users\' Group\'" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>> >> >> Betreff: RE: Beginner\'s books
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm very confused by your statement:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "if you're working with customers you can't really use a
>> reference
>> >> book?"
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why not?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I do.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> >> Of
>> >> >> Shoaib Mirza
>> >> >> Sent: 22 January 2010 21:48
>> >> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>> >> >> Subject: RE: Beginner's books
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But is it worth buying for $70 if you already have the previous
>> >> version?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And is it possible to get an e-book version, because if you're
>> >> working
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> customers you can't really use a reference book?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> All the best
>> >> >> Sun.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   _____
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:39:40 +1100
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Beginner's books
>> >> >> From: neil.gardiner at gmail.com
>> >> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would definitely go fo Susans recomendation for two reasons:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) It's a fantastic book, well written and covers all of todays
>> W/F
>> >> >> topics.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2) Proceeds go to: Medicins Sans Frontieres
>> (http://www.msf.org.au)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Neil.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2010/1/22 Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL <keohan at ll.mit.edu>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The updated version of the SAP-Press book, Practical Workflow for
>> >> SAP, was
>> >> >> released in May, 2009.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It has almost doubled in size to include much more detail on ABAP
>> >> Objects,
>> >> >> SRM, CRM, etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.sap-press.com/product.cfm?account=&product=H3057
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sue
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Susan R. Keohan
>> >> >>
>> >> >> SAP Workflow Specialist
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Enterprise Applications
>> >> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> keohan at LL.MIT.EDU
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   _____
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> >> Of
>> >> >> Shoaib Mirza
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:27 AM
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Subject: RE: Beginner's books
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Florin
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 'Practical workflow for sap': sap press. This was the bible for
>> >> workflow
>> >> >> some years ago to get started, don't know if it's been updated
>> >> though or
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> anything recently published that is good, would be interested to
>> >> know.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best Regards
>> >> >> Sunni
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:13:07 +0100
>> >> >> > From: florin.wach at gmx.net
>> >> >> > Subject: Beginner's books
>> >> >> > To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hello again,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > although I know that there're already some posts about this
>> topic,
>> >> I'd
>> >> >> like to hear the very recent news about that.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What book could be advised to get the first steps for SAP
>> Business
>> >> >> Workflow ... anticipating that the person is already familier
>> with
>> >> SAP
>> >> >> ABAP
>> >> >> programming?
>> >> >> > Something like a general entry, that doesn't goes too deeply
>> into
>> >> every
>> >> >> details.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And yes, I know the SAP trainings BC601,610 (if they still have
>> >> these
>> >> >> numbers), which I can advice myself. But I'm looking for a book
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> >> first
>> >> >> place.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks for any suggestions.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Florin
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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