Beginner's books

Mon Feb 8 03:16:30 EST 2010

That's what I got too.. a kind of automated mail that it was deleted.
I found it personally quite rude... 

I prefer the WUG also for workflow questions but as I haven't been involved in workflow developments the last two years.. and only recently did workflow again....  the sdn seemed a logical place to put a general question like that.

Best regards
Koenraad
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Bakker
>Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:34 PM
>To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
>Subject: Re: RE: Beginner's books
>
>Happened to me as well. I gave an honest though possibly incorrect
>answer to a question (nothing controversial, I can assure you) and it
>got deleted. I did get an email saying it had been deleted but with no
>details of who did it or a reasonable explanation why.
>
>Since then I haven't posted as much. Beware of over-eager moderators!
>
>If I can find the email, I'll send it to you.
>
>Rick Bakker
>Hanabi Technology
>
>On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Mike Pokraka
><wug at workflowconnections.com> wrote:
>> Hi Koenraad,
>>
>> As an SCN moderator (1), I find this a little bit concerning as things
>> should not work that way. Could you please let me know some more details if
>> you still have the info, and I can look into this. From my part I certainly
>> never delete posts unless they are way out of line - usually I edit them
>> with some explanatory comments. Also, forum moderators are supposed to be
>> approachable rather than the 'can't compete' view you describe.
>>
>> You can let me know via private mail - I just wanted to post this on the
>> list in case anyone else had such experiences.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> (1) Although I much prefer the WUG for it's volume and quality of posts!
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>>> Behalf Of JANSSENS Koenraad
>>> Sent: 27 January 2010 08:29
>>> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
>>> Subject: RE: RE: Beginner's books
>>>
>>> It was my pleasure.. because thanks to this thread I now know that its
>>> worthwhile to buy the second edition of the workflow bible while
>>> already having the first one.
>>> A thread of my name asking exactly this was once deleted from the sap
>>> sdn forums as not relevant to the subject it was posted under.  (which
>>> I still find incorrectly deleted but you can't compete off course which
>>> those whom practically live on those forums.. gather enough points..
>>> etc etc..)
>>>
>>> I can go and spend money again... :)
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>>> Behalf Of Florin Wach
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:16 AM
>>> >To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>>> >Subject: Re: RE: Beginner's books
>>> >
>>> >correction on one of the book's titles:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code"
>>> >(Object Technology Series)by Martin Fowler (Author) and others (Beck,
>>> Brant, Opdyke)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Thanks to Koenraad for pointing that out :-)
>>> >
>>> >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> >Datum: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:57:22 +0100
>>> >Von: "Florin Wach" <florin.wach at gmx.net>
>>> >An: "SAP Workflow Users\' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>>> >Betreff: Re: RE: Beginner\'s books
>>> >
>>> >A big hello on everbody again,
>>> >
>>> >thank you all for the various replies to my previous question
>>> ...before the discussion leads to another emphasis,
>>> >which it is about to go, ... so let me please throw in a small gap:
>>> >
>>> >As far as I've understood, the one and only highly recommended
>>> (reference) book is the
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Practical Workflow for SAP" (2nd edition)
>>> >==========================================
>>> >
>>> > in its newer edition from May 2009.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I have looked through the book's table of content and found very
>>> useful topics and it seems to cover nearly all
>>> >topics from the basics up to the more sophisticated ones.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >To follow up on Mike's statement: Well I was a bit wondering too, as
>>> my motivation to ask this question was indeed
>>> >to HAVE a reference book at the customer's site. I already have an
>>> ABAP reference, an OO-Guide and a fabilous book
>>> >"How to improve the design of existing code", which I myself could
>>> recommended to any SAP employee and everone else
>>> >who's working with pre-existing code ;-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >So take care, read more, and with the very best wishes,
>>> >Florin
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> >> Datum: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:33:49 -0000
>>> >> Von: "Mike Pokraka" <wug at workflowconnections.com>
>>> >> An: "\'SAP Workflow Users\' Group\'" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
>>> >> Betreff: RE: Beginner\'s books
>>> >
>>> >> I'm very confused by your statement:
>>> >>
>>> >> "if you're working with customers you can't really use a reference
>>> book?"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Why not?
>>> >>
>>> >> I do.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>>> Behalf
>>> >> Of
>>> >> Shoaib Mirza
>>> >> Sent: 22 January 2010 21:48
>>> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>>> >> Subject: RE: Beginner's books
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi
>>> >>
>>> >> But is it worth buying for $70 if you already have the previous
>>> version?
>>> >>
>>> >> And is it possible to get an e-book version, because if you're
>>> working
>>> >> with
>>> >> customers you can't really use a reference book?
>>> >>
>>> >> All the best
>>> >> Sun.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>   _____
>>> >>
>>> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:39:40 +1100
>>> >> Subject: Re: Beginner's books
>>> >> From: neil.gardiner at gmail.com
>>> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>>> >>
>>> >> I would definitely go fo Susans recomendation for two reasons:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 1) It's a fantastic book, well written and covers all of todays W/F
>>> >> topics.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2) Proceeds go to: Medicins Sans Frontieres (http://www.msf.org.au)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> Neil.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2010/1/22 Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL <keohan at ll.mit.edu>
>>> >>
>>> >> The updated version of the SAP-Press book, Practical Workflow for
>>> SAP, was
>>> >> released in May, 2009.
>>> >>
>>> >> It has almost doubled in size to include much more detail on ABAP
>>> Objects,
>>> >> SRM, CRM, etc.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.sap-press.com/product.cfm?account=&product=H3057
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Sue
>>> >>
>>> >> ----
>>> >>
>>> >> Susan R. Keohan
>>> >>
>>> >> SAP Workflow Specialist
>>> >>
>>> >> Enterprise Applications
>>> >>
>>> >> Information Services Department
>>> >>
>>> >> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>>> >>
>>> >> 244 Wood Street, LI-200
>>> >>
>>> >> Lexington, MA. 02420
>>> >>
>>> >> 781-981-3561
>>> >>
>>> >> keohan at LL.MIT.EDU
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>   _____
>>> >>
>>> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
>>> Behalf
>>> >> Of
>>> >> Shoaib Mirza
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:27 AM
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>>> >>
>>> >> Subject: RE: Beginner's books
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Florin
>>> >>
>>> >> 'Practical workflow for sap': sap press. This was the bible for
>>> workflow
>>> >> some years ago to get started, don't know if it's been updated
>>> though or
>>> >> if
>>> >> anything recently published that is good, would be interested to
>>> know.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best Regards
>>> >> Sunni
>>> >>
>>> >> > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:13:07 +0100
>>> >> > From: florin.wach at gmx.net
>>> >> > Subject: Beginner's books
>>> >> > To: sap-wug at mit.edu
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hello again,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > although I know that there're already some posts about this topic,
>>> I'd
>>> >> like to hear the very recent news about that.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > What book could be advised to get the first steps for SAP Business
>>> >> Workflow ... anticipating that the person is already familier with
>>> SAP
>>> >> ABAP
>>> >> programming?
>>> >> > Something like a general entry, that doesn't goes too deeply into
>>> every
>>> >> details.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > And yes, I know the SAP trainings BC601,610 (if they still have
>>> these
>>> >> numbers), which I can advice myself. But I'm looking for a book in
>>> the
>>> >> first
>>> >> place.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks for any suggestions.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Florin
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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