Beginner's books

Mike Pokraka wug at workflowconnections.com
Sun Feb 7 15:51:54 EST 2010 

Hi Rick, 

An incorrect answer may have been reported - mainly because there are plenty
of irrelevant answers and folks are fed up with them. I guess - by your own
admission - yours fell into that category so don't take it personally if a
moderator deleted it in response to a complaint. (From your example I know
that one wasn't me :-) )

On the SDN/Jive moderation console it's a simple job to press a single
button to reject a reported post. Writing an email is another mission so for
a moderator with dozens of these, the 'R' button is the preferred choice. We
would rather spend time posting on the WUG than fill out 'Reason for
rejection' notices :-)
 
BTW, an SDN post also get rejected automatically after 5 reports. 

Cheers, 
Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> Behalf Of Rick Bakker
> Sent: 06 February 2010 21:34
> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> Subject: Re: RE: Beginner's books
> 
> Happened to me as well. I gave an honest though possibly incorrect
> answer to a question (nothing controversial, I can assure you) and it
> got deleted. I did get an email saying it had been deleted but with no
> details of who did it or a reasonable explanation why.
> 
> Since then I haven't posted as much. Beware of over-eager moderators!
> 
> If I can find the email, I'll send it to you.
> 
> Rick Bakker
> Hanabi Technology
> 
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Mike Pokraka
> <wug at workflowconnections.com> wrote:
> > Hi Koenraad,
> >
> > As an SCN moderator (1), I find this a little bit concerning as
> things
> > should not work that way. Could you please let me know some more
> details if
> > you still have the info, and I can look into this. From my part I
> certainly
> > never delete posts unless they are way out of line - usually I edit
> them
> > with some explanatory comments. Also, forum moderators are supposed
> to be
> > approachable rather than the 'can't compete' view you describe.
> >
> > You can let me know via private mail - I just wanted to post this on
> the
> > list in case anyone else had such experiences.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
> >
> > (1) Although I much prefer the WUG for it's volume and quality of
> posts!
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> >> Behalf Of JANSSENS Koenraad
> >> Sent: 27 January 2010 08:29
> >> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >> Subject: RE: RE: Beginner's books
> >>
> >> It was my pleasure.. because thanks to this thread I now know that
> its
> >> worthwhile to buy the second edition of the workflow bible while
> >> already having the first one.
> >> A thread of my name asking exactly this was once deleted from the
> sap
> >> sdn forums as not relevant to the subject it was posted under.
>  (which
> >> I still find incorrectly deleted but you can't compete off course
> which
> >> those whom practically live on those forums.. gather enough points..
> >> etc etc..)
> >>
> >> I can go and spend money again... :)
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> >> Behalf Of Florin Wach
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:16 AM
> >> >To: sap-wug at mit.edu
> >> >Subject: Re: RE: Beginner's books
> >> >
> >> >correction on one of the book's titles:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code"
> >> >(Object Technology Series)by Martin Fowler (Author) and others
> (Beck,
> >> Brant, Opdyke)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Thanks to Koenraad for pointing that out :-)
> >> >
> >> >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> >Datum: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:57:22 +0100
> >> >Von: "Florin Wach" <florin.wach at gmx.net>
> >> >An: "SAP Workflow Users\' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> >Betreff: Re: RE: Beginner\'s books
> >> >
> >> >A big hello on everbody again,
> >> >
> >> >thank you all for the various replies to my previous question
> >> ...before the discussion leads to another emphasis,
> >> >which it is about to go, ... so let me please throw in a small gap:
> >> >
> >> >As far as I've understood, the one and only highly recommended
> >> (reference) book is the
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Practical Workflow for SAP" (2nd edition)
> >> >==========================================
> >> >
> >> > in its newer edition from May 2009.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I have looked through the book's table of content and found very
> >> useful topics and it seems to cover nearly all
> >> >topics from the basics up to the more sophisticated ones.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >To follow up on Mike's statement: Well I was a bit wondering too,
> as
> >> my motivation to ask this question was indeed
> >> >to HAVE a reference book at the customer's site. I already have an
> >> ABAP reference, an OO-Guide and a fabilous book
> >> >"How to improve the design of existing code", which I myself could
> >> recommended to any SAP employee and everone else
> >> >who's working with pre-existing code ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >So take care, read more, and with the very best wishes,
> >> >Florin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> >> Datum: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:33:49 -0000
> >> >> Von: "Mike Pokraka" <wug at workflowconnections.com>
> >> >> An: "\'SAP Workflow Users\' Group\'" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> >> >> Betreff: RE: Beginner\'s books
> >> >
> >> >> I'm very confused by your statement:
> >> >>
> >> >> "if you're working with customers you can't really use a
> reference
> >> book?"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Why not?
> >> >>
> >> >> I do.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> >> Behalf
> >> >> Of
> >> >> Shoaib Mirza
> >> >> Sent: 22 January 2010 21:48
> >> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
> >> >> Subject: RE: Beginner's books
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi
> >> >>
> >> >> But is it worth buying for $70 if you already have the previous
> >> version?
> >> >>
> >> >> And is it possible to get an e-book version, because if you're
> >> working
> >> >> with
> >> >> customers you can't really use a reference book?
> >> >>
> >> >> All the best
> >> >> Sun.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   _____
> >> >>
> >> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:39:40 +1100
> >> >> Subject: Re: Beginner's books
> >> >> From: neil.gardiner at gmail.com
> >> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
> >> >>
> >> >> I would definitely go fo Susans recomendation for two reasons:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) It's a fantastic book, well written and covers all of todays
> W/F
> >> >> topics.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) Proceeds go to: Medicins Sans Frontieres
> (http://www.msf.org.au)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> Neil.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2010/1/22 Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL <keohan at ll.mit.edu>
> >> >>
> >> >> The updated version of the SAP-Press book, Practical Workflow for
> >> SAP, was
> >> >> released in May, 2009.
> >> >>
> >> >> It has almost doubled in size to include much more detail on ABAP
> >> Objects,
> >> >> SRM, CRM, etc.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.sap-press.com/product.cfm?account=&product=H3057
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Sue
> >> >>
> >> >> ----
> >> >>
> >> >> Susan R. Keohan
> >> >>
> >> >> SAP Workflow Specialist
> >> >>
> >> >> Enterprise Applications
> >> >>
> >> >> Information Services Department
> >> >>
> >> >> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> >> >>
> >> >> 244 Wood Street, LI-200
> >> >>
> >> >> Lexington, MA. 02420
> >> >>
> >> >> 781-981-3561
> >> >>
> >> >> keohan at LL.MIT.EDU
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   _____
> >> >>
> >> >> From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On
> >> Behalf
> >> >> Of
> >> >> Shoaib Mirza
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:27 AM
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> To: sap-wug at mit.edu
> >> >>
> >> >> Subject: RE: Beginner's books
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Florin
> >> >>
> >> >> 'Practical workflow for sap': sap press. This was the bible for
> >> workflow
> >> >> some years ago to get started, don't know if it's been updated
> >> though or
> >> >> if
> >> >> anything recently published that is good, would be interested to
> >> know.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best Regards
> >> >> Sunni
> >> >>
> >> >> > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:13:07 +0100
> >> >> > From: florin.wach at gmx.net
> >> >> > Subject: Beginner's books
> >> >> > To: sap-wug at mit.edu
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hello again,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > although I know that there're already some posts about this
> topic,
> >> I'd
> >> >> like to hear the very recent news about that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What book could be advised to get the first steps for SAP
> Business
> >> >> Workflow ... anticipating that the person is already familier
> with
> >> SAP
> >> >> ABAP
> >> >> programming?
> >> >> > Something like a general entry, that doesn't goes too deeply
> into
> >> every
> >> >> details.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And yes, I know the SAP trainings BC601,610 (if they still have
> >> these
> >> >> numbers), which I can advice myself. But I'm looking for a book
> in
> >> the
> >> >> first
> >> >> place.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Florin
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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