SAP Workflow Certification coming back?

[Karl Nietz]

Hi Paul,

It is indeed a measurable achievement but is something, like a degree, 
that might have been obtained some time in the past and perhaps 
out-of-date.  I have been certified in a couple of SAP componenets, but 
long ago and would not like to use these as justification of competence 
now.  In any case I think that the number of bona fide worklfow experts 
available without certification as opposed to those so equiped mean that 
the market must be realistic and flexible, and I suspect this may 
contribute to the thinking of SAP in dropping the certification.

Karl Nietz
 



Paul.Bakker at osr.treasury.qld.gov.au 
Sent by: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu
07/08/2009 07:33 AM
Please respond to
"SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>


To
"SAP Workflow Users' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
cc

Subject
Re: SAP Workflow Certification coming back?






Nee.

All things being equal, I would hire a SAP-certified workflow consultant
first.
It's a tangible, 'objective' measure, whereas 'workflow experience' is
often in the eye of the beholder (or rather the job candidate).

Sure, if someone already has a solid CV and references, then it wouldn't
make that much difference.
But for a more junior position - or even someone trying to break into
workflow - a certificate would be very valuable indeed.

Bring it back, I say.

cheers
PaulB



 
             IKhan 
             <ikhansap at gmail.c 
             om>                                                        To 

             Sent by:                  "SAP Workflow Users' Group" 
             sap-wug-bounces at m         <sap-wug at mit.edu> 
             it.edu                                                     cc 

 
                                                                   Subject 

             07/08/2009 02:34          Re: SAP Workflow Certification 
             AM                        coming back? 
 
 
             Please respond to 
               "SAP Workflow 
               Users' Group" 
             <sap-wug at mit.edu> 
 
 




Hi Sue,
  Thanks for you reply. I do agree your thoughts but In some places
especially in Middle east, clients are asking for certified consultants
with right experience.

Regards,
Ibrahim

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Keohan, Susan <keohan at ll.mit.edu> wrote:
  Hi Ikhan,


  I think it is safe to say that SAP Workflow Certification is not coming
  back.  SAP is still offering the basic Workflow Courses, and there has
  been a lot of debate over what Certification really means.  For example,
  is that your only criteria for whether you hire a consultant?  What does
  Certification *really* mean?  Would you prefer to hire someone who has
  4-5 projects under their belt, or someone whose resume is light, but 
does
  have Certifications?





  At any rate, there is still some quality education being offered out
  there and while we (I?) try keep this forum clear of marketing pitches, 
I
  think that this offering, created in part by our own Ginger Gatling, may
  be useful.


  http://www.workflowinsap.com/homePage.cfm?usergroup=us





  And also, since I am bending the rules, let’s not forget the new version
  of Practical Workflow for SAP, which is available via SAP-Press.





  If I should hear more on the front of Workflow Certification, I will
  certainly pass that information on to this group.



  Regards,


  Sue


  ----


  Susan R. Keohan


  SAP Workflow Specialist


  Enterprise Applications


  Information Services Department


  MIT Lincoln Laboratory


  244 Wood Street, LI-200


  Lexington, MA. 02420


  781-981-3561


  keohan at LL.MIT.EDU








  From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
  Of IKhan
  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:37 PM
  To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
  Subject: SAP Workflow Certification coming back?





  Hi Friends,
    Any idea whether SAP Workflow Certification is coming back? Some 
months
  before one of our SAP WUG'ers did a survey on this and published the
  results.
  After that no updates on that. If any one has any information please
  share it.

  Regards,
  Ikhan

  _______________________________________________
  SAP-WUG mailing list
  SAP-WUG at mit.edu
  http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug

_______________________________________________
SAP-WUG mailing list
SAP-WUG at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug

******************************************************************************************************************************************************

Only an individual or entity who is intended to be a recipient of this 
e-mail may access or use the information contained in this e-mail or any 
of its attachments.  Opinions contained in this e-mail or any of its 
attachments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Queensland 
Treasury.

The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may 
be legally privileged and the subject of copyright.  If you have received 
this e-mail in error, please notify Queensland Treasury immediately and 
erase all copies of the e-mail and the attachments.  Queensland Treasury 
uses virus scanning software.  However, it is not liable for viruses 
present in this e-mail or in any attachment. 

******************************************************************************************************************************************************


_______________________________________________
SAP-WUG mailing list
SAP-WUG at mit.edu
http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/sap-wug


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/sap-wug/attachments/20090807/3f667aa4/attachment.htm