EEC6 Requested Start & Resubmission

Tue Apr 28 01:55:56 EDT 2009

Hi,

I have used the requested start date functionality in one of my approval workflows and it was just nice to send a work item to the resubmission box. This is also what I have learned in the workflow course from SAP some time ago. It seems to me that the documentation is slightly unclear here, as this functionality has been implemented just the way it was designed.

In order to achieve a strict rule: "Execute-Not-Before", be aware, that the requested start date even works with BACKGROUND STEPS. So you'll have to create an empty object method with no-dialog marked, create a task definition for it and put this into the workflow pattern giving the requested start date. Right after this step you've to put your dialog task.
You could also reach the same result, when you used an empty object method, no-dialog, defined as asynchronous task with an event that surely never is created and a modeled latest end date. But this is slighlty more work than the previous solution.

In the result, the workflow stops at the background steps and waits for the requested start date/time. The job SWWERRE is doing this work, when I remember rightly, otherwise it is the SWWDHEX. When the background step is processed, the dialog work items appears at the first time, the job ran.

With the very best wishes,
   Florin

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:11:55 -0600
> Von: Rick Bakker <rbakker at gmail.com>
> An: "SAP Workflow Users\' Group" <sap-wug at mit.edu>
> Betreff: Re: EEC6 Requested Start & Resubmission

> Hello Rick,
> 
> As you quoted in the Help:
> 
> "A dialog work item appears in the Business Workplaces of its recipients
> when the requested start is reached"
> 
> That isn't true; it should read that it appears in the Inbox. Isn't that
> what they call a "documentation bug"?
> 
> I'd never used Requested Start in this way before so I didn't even know it
> went to the Resubmissions folder.
> 
> regards
> Rick Bakker
> Hanabi Technology
> 
> 
> On 4/27/09, Sample, Rick <Rick.Sample at graybar.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi Rick,
> >
> > Thanks for checking. I never noticed this working in this way before.
> > I always assumed "Earliest time at which the work item can be executed"
> meant
> > just what it states.
> > Task can not be executed until deadline is reached. Unless the Deadline
> is
> > changed of course.
> >
> > Well, this explains some intermittent issues I had over the years.
> > I think I need to take a field trip to my super users and see what other
> > amazing tricks they know that I do not. LOL
> >
> > I wonder if SAP considers this to be a bug? I sure did not catch it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Rick Sample | Office (314) 573-5822 | Mobile (314) 952-2273 |
> > rick.sample at graybar.com
> > www.graybar.com - *Graybar Works to Your Advantage*
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] *On
> > Behalf Of *Rick Bakker
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2009 12:58 PM
> > *To:* SAP Workflow Users' Group
> > *Subject:* Re: EEC6 Requested Start & Resubmission
> >
> >
> >  Rick,
> >
> > It works in the same way in 46C (ie you end Resubmission and it goes to
> the
> > inbox) - I just tried it.
> >
> > regards
> > Rick Bakker
> > Hanabi Technology
> >
> >
> > On 4/27/09, Sample, Rick <Rick.Sample at graybar.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Forgot to include the Help file text.
> >> The language seems clear to me! Do not start the task until xx:xx:xx.
> >> Period! Do not put in Business Workplace until the requested start and
> not
> >> available.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   requested start (BC-BMT-WFM) SAP Business Workflow (BC-BMT-WFM)
> >>
> >> Earliest time at which the work item can be executed.
> >>
> >> A dialog work item appears in the Business Workplaces of its recipients
> >> when the requested start is reached if the work item is already
> available
> >> for processing.
> >>
> >> If the dialog work item is not created until after the requested start,
> it
> >> appears immediately in the Business Workplaces of its recipients.
> >>
> >> With background work items, execution starts when the requested start
> is
> >> reached at the earliest.
> >>
> >> Rick Sample | Office (314) 573-5822 | Mobile (314) 952-2273 |
> >> rick.sample at graybar.com
> >> www.graybar.com - *Graybar Works to Your Advantage*
> >> ****
> >> **
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >>  ------------------------------
> >> *From:* Sample, Rick
> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2009 12:17 PM
> >> *To:* Sample, Rick; 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'
> >> *Subject:* EEC6 Requested Start & Resubmission
> >>
> >>
> >>  Hi all,
> >>
> >> Something has just brought to my attention and was never aware of the
> >> functionality!
> >>
> >> We have tasks that have "Requested Start" deadlines.
> >> Task starts and goes into wait.
> >> But, users can just go into SBWP, in the Resubmission folder, end
> >> resubmission, and execute the tasks! This a bug?
> >> I do not want user executing task until the deadline!
> >>
> >> I DO NOT recall this working this way in 4.6c.
> >>
> >> Below is the help text from the task builder for "Requested Start"
> >> describing how it functionality and
> >> I see nothing in the help files that indicate it can be picked up from
> the
> >> Resubmission folder and
> >> executed BEFORE the start date.
> >>
> >> >How Does the Requested Start Work?
> >> >If the requested start for a dialog work item is reached, the work
> item
> >> is placed in the Workflow Inboxes of the recipients.
> >> >If the requested start for a background is reached, the workflow
> system
> >> starts automatically with the execution of the work item.
> >> >Whether the requested start has been reached is checked by the
> background
> >> job for missed deadline that is run periodically.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick Sample | Office (314) 573-5822 | Mobile (314) 952-2273 |
> >> rick.sample at graybar.com
> >> www.graybar.com <http://www.graybar.com/>  - Graybar Works to Your
> >> Advantage
> >>
> >>
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