SAP-WUG - to SDN or not to SDN, that is the question

Thu Jun 28 13:42:13 EDT 2007

A more informal foorum is also the Coffee Corner
https://forums.sdn.sap.com/forum.jspa?forumID=255&start=0
where an interesting discussion on the whole points/rewards system has
been going on for a while already:
https://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=447764&tstart=0

Plenty to toast about!
Cheers,
Mike

On Thu, June 28, 2007 6:05 pm, Susan R. Keohan wrote:
> However, you are all reminded to *go to SDN* and make your feelings
> heard.  Without any feedback, they can't be expected to change things.
>
> Here is the link to the forum on forums...
>
> https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/forum?forumID=40&start=0
>
> It wasn't that close, Mike, but I am still counting on some happy
> toasting in LV.
>
> Cheers,
> Sue
>
> Mike Pokraka wrote:
>> Hear, hear! A glass or two coming your way in Las Vegas.
>>
>> Phew, that was close!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, June 28, 2007 3:51 pm, Susan R. Keohan wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your feedback.  I will pass this information on to
>>> the
>>> SDN folks.  I really enjoy knowing that you all get information, and
>>> even chuckles, from this list.  So until there is a better alternative,
>>> the WUG lives on.
>>>
>>> Those of you who want to raise a glass to toast it are welcome to do so
>>> in Las Vegas at TechEd.   I hope to see you there!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> PS:  I am really blushing with your enthusiasm and kind words.
>>>
>>> Hilsbos, Margaret A wrote:
>>>> Just want to chip in that I would like the WUG to continue as the
>>>> phenomenal resource it's been, and I would be disappointed to see it
>>>> move to SDN.
>>>>
>>>> Reasons:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  WUG ain't broke. It works great. (For the beneficiaries, anyway.)
>>>> 2.  My experiences with SDN have been mostly frustrating, and as has
>>>> been mentioned, the search is very poor. (I have found good answers
>>>> there on occasion though, SDN is not completely hopeless.)
>>>>
>>>> Those said, my biggest reason is that I've evolved a great system for
>>>> handling the WUG traffic in my inbox, but if it moves to SDN I would
>>>> have to figure out how to set things up again to achieve the same
>>>> benefit and ease of use. It's probably possible, but given the choice,
>>>> from a purely selfish perspective I'd rather not change something that
>>>> is working quite well for me as is.
>>>>
>>>> If a move to SDN is necessary in the future, I hope some nice folks
>>>> will
>>>> compile a concise FAQ on how to make the SDN Workflow forum at least
>>>> behave as much as possible like WUG.
>>>>
>>>> Also, here's an example usability problem with ASUG forums (I don't
>>>> know
>>>> if this is also true for SDN, I haven't used SDN much because of the
>>>> performance) - the subject line looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> "ASUG Discussion Forum Post: RE:Brief Survey - WF and BPM SIG"
>>>>
>>>> EVERY email has the SAME first 25+ characters. I suspect I'm not the
>>>> only person who finds it harder to pick out items of interest by
>>>> scanning headers in my ASUG folder.  In contrast, the WUG emails have
>>>> a
>>>> meaningful subject line from the first character (except for the
>>>> occasional noob or goof that generates a SAP-WUG Digest reply). Why
>>>> not
>>>> configure the ASUG forum mail with the forum indicator at the end of
>>>> the
>>>> subject line (like: RE:Brief Survey - WF and BPM SIG (ASUG Discussion
>>>> Forum Post) ) - if it must be there at all?
>>>>
>>>> That's just an example of how usability ought to be taken into
>>>> account.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, fwiw, I run a non-technical forum for a small group of
>>>> volunteers, and I have considered that it might work better for our
>>>> purposes to move it to a mailing list type of discussion group
>>>> instead.
>>>> Mailing lists might be "so last century" but as seen on this group,
>>>> they
>>>> can still work perfectly well for what they are intended for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Margaret Hilsbos
>>>> Applications Development Group
>>>> Day & Zimmermann
>>>> (215) 299-5630
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, June 27, 2007 8:19 pm, Susan R. Keohan wrote:
>>>>> Sherie, Mike, All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I hear you loud and clear.  If others feel the same way, please reply
>>>>> and say WHY.  I don't mind keeping this list going as long as I can;
>>>> as
>>>>> a matter of fact, I enjoy it quite a bit.  But this list has no
>>>>> 'official' status with SAP, and it is just by grace of good luck that
>>>> we
>>>>> have some excellent SAP folks (you know who you are) on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you feel that this list should continue, again, please state
>>>>> why...
>>>>> why you like it, why other sources don't meet your needs, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> That, along with your $20 contribution, will keep SAP-WUG up and
>>>> running.
>>>>> Kidding (about the $20) for those of you who don't know me,
>>>>> Sue
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>> --
>>> Susan R. Keohan
>>> SAP Workflow Developer
>>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>>> 244 Wood Street
>>> LI-200
>>> Lexington, MA. 02420
>>> Phone: 781-981-3561
>>> Fax:   781-981-1607
>>> keohan at ll.mit.edu
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>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Susan R. Keohan
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> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood Street
> LI-200
> Lexington, MA. 02420
> Phone: 781-981-3561
> Fax:   781-981-1607
> keohan at ll.mit.edu
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