SAP-WUG - to SDN or not to SDN, that is the question

[Munday,Sherie J.]

Count me in ... And we'll make it Champagne!! 

-----Original Message-----
From: sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf
Of Mike Pokraka
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:53 PM
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group
Subject: Re: SAP-WUG - to SDN or not to SDN, that is the question

Hear, hear! A glass or two coming your way in Las Vegas.

Phew, that was close!


On Thu, June 28, 2007 3:51 pm, Susan R. Keohan wrote:
> All,
>
> Thank you all for your feedback.  I will pass this information on to 
> the SDN folks.  I really enjoy knowing that you all get information, 
> and even chuckles, from this list.  So until there is a better 
> alternative, the WUG lives on.
>
> Those of you who want to raise a glass to toast it are welcome to do
so
> in Las Vegas at TechEd.   I hope to see you there!
>
> Cheers,
> Sue
>
> PS:  I am really blushing with your enthusiasm and kind words.
>
> Hilsbos, Margaret A wrote:
>> Just want to chip in that I would like the WUG to continue as the 
>> phenomenal resource it's been, and I would be disappointed to see it 
>> move to SDN.
>>
>> Reasons:
>>
>> 1.  WUG ain't broke. It works great. (For the beneficiaries, anyway.)

>> 2.  My experiences with SDN have been mostly frustrating, and as has 
>> been mentioned, the search is very poor. (I have found good answers 
>> there on occasion though, SDN is not completely hopeless.)
>>
>> Those said, my biggest reason is that I've evolved a great system for

>> handling the WUG traffic in my inbox, but if it moves to SDN I would 
>> have to figure out how to set things up again to achieve the same 
>> benefit and ease of use. It's probably possible, but given the 
>> choice, from a purely selfish perspective I'd rather not change 
>> something that is working quite well for me as is.
>>
>> If a move to SDN is necessary in the future, I hope some nice folks 
>> will compile a concise FAQ on how to make the SDN Workflow forum at 
>> least behave as much as possible like WUG.
>>
>> Also, here's an example usability problem with ASUG forums (I don't 
>> know if this is also true for SDN, I haven't used SDN much because of

>> the
>> performance) - the subject line looks like this:
>>
>> "ASUG Discussion Forum Post: RE:Brief Survey - WF and BPM SIG"
>>
>> EVERY email has the SAME first 25+ characters. I suspect I'm not the 
>> only person who finds it harder to pick out items of interest by 
>> scanning headers in my ASUG folder.  In contrast, the WUG emails have

>> a meaningful subject line from the first character (except for the 
>> occasional noob or goof that generates a SAP-WUG Digest reply). Why 
>> not configure the ASUG forum mail with the forum indicator at the end

>> of the subject line (like: RE:Brief Survey - WF and BPM SIG (ASUG 
>> Discussion Forum Post) ) - if it must be there at all?
>>
>> That's just an example of how usability ought to be taken into
account.
>>
>> Finally, fwiw, I run a non-technical forum for a small group of 
>> volunteers, and I have considered that it might work better for our 
>> purposes to move it to a mailing list type of discussion group
instead.
>> Mailing lists might be "so last century" but as seen on this group, 
>> they can still work perfectly well for what they are intended for.
>>
>>
>> Margaret Hilsbos
>> Applications Development Group
>> Day & Zimmermann
>> (215) 299-5630
>>
>>
>> On Wed, June 27, 2007 8:19 pm, Susan R. Keohan wrote:
>>> Sherie, Mike, All,
>>>
>>> I hear you loud and clear.  If others feel the same way, please 
>>> reply and say WHY.  I don't mind keeping this list going as long as 
>>> I can;
>> as
>>> a matter of fact, I enjoy it quite a bit.  But this list has no 
>>> 'official' status with SAP, and it is just by grace of good luck 
>>> that
>> we
>>> have some excellent SAP folks (you know who you are) on it.
>>>
>>> If you feel that this list should continue, again, please state
why...
>>> why you like it, why other sources don't meet your needs, etc.
>>>
>>> That, along with your $20 contribution, will keep SAP-WUG up and
>> running.
>>>
>>> Kidding (about the $20) for those of you who don't know me, Sue
>>>
>>
>>
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