SAP-WUG - to SDN or not to SDN, that is the question

[Susan R. Keohan]

However, you are all reminded to *go to SDN* and make your feelings 
heard.  Without any feedback, they can't be expected to change things.

Here is the link to the forum on forums...

https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/forum?forumID=40&start=0

It wasn't that close, Mike, but I am still counting on some happy 
toasting in LV.

Cheers,
Sue

Mike Pokraka wrote:
> Hear, hear! A glass or two coming your way in Las Vegas.
> 
> Phew, that was close!
> 
> 
> On Thu, June 28, 2007 3:51 pm, Susan R. Keohan wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Thank you all for your feedback.  I will pass this information on to the
>> SDN folks.  I really enjoy knowing that you all get information, and
>> even chuckles, from this list.  So until there is a better alternative,
>> the WUG lives on.
>>
>> Those of you who want to raise a glass to toast it are welcome to do so
>> in Las Vegas at TechEd.   I hope to see you there!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sue
>>
>> PS:  I am really blushing with your enthusiasm and kind words.
>>
>> Hilsbos, Margaret A wrote:
>>> Just want to chip in that I would like the WUG to continue as the
>>> phenomenal resource it's been, and I would be disappointed to see it
>>> move to SDN.
>>>
>>> Reasons:
>>>
>>> 1.  WUG ain't broke. It works great. (For the beneficiaries, anyway.)
>>> 2.  My experiences with SDN have been mostly frustrating, and as has
>>> been mentioned, the search is very poor. (I have found good answers
>>> there on occasion though, SDN is not completely hopeless.)
>>>
>>> Those said, my biggest reason is that I've evolved a great system for
>>> handling the WUG traffic in my inbox, but if it moves to SDN I would
>>> have to figure out how to set things up again to achieve the same
>>> benefit and ease of use. It's probably possible, but given the choice,
>>> from a purely selfish perspective I'd rather not change something that
>>> is working quite well for me as is.
>>>
>>> If a move to SDN is necessary in the future, I hope some nice folks will
>>> compile a concise FAQ on how to make the SDN Workflow forum at least
>>> behave as much as possible like WUG.
>>>
>>> Also, here's an example usability problem with ASUG forums (I don't know
>>> if this is also true for SDN, I haven't used SDN much because of the
>>> performance) - the subject line looks like this:
>>>
>>> "ASUG Discussion Forum Post: RE:Brief Survey - WF and BPM SIG"
>>>
>>> EVERY email has the SAME first 25+ characters. I suspect I'm not the
>>> only person who finds it harder to pick out items of interest by
>>> scanning headers in my ASUG folder.  In contrast, the WUG emails have a
>>> meaningful subject line from the first character (except for the
>>> occasional noob or goof that generates a SAP-WUG Digest reply). Why not
>>> configure the ASUG forum mail with the forum indicator at the end of the
>>> subject line (like: RE:Brief Survey - WF and BPM SIG (ASUG Discussion
>>> Forum Post) ) - if it must be there at all?
>>>
>>> That's just an example of how usability ought to be taken into account.
>>>
>>> Finally, fwiw, I run a non-technical forum for a small group of
>>> volunteers, and I have considered that it might work better for our
>>> purposes to move it to a mailing list type of discussion group instead.
>>> Mailing lists might be "so last century" but as seen on this group, they
>>> can still work perfectly well for what they are intended for.
>>>
>>>
>>> Margaret Hilsbos
>>> Applications Development Group
>>> Day & Zimmermann
>>> (215) 299-5630
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, June 27, 2007 8:19 pm, Susan R. Keohan wrote:
>>>> Sherie, Mike, All,
>>>>
>>>> I hear you loud and clear.  If others feel the same way, please reply
>>>> and say WHY.  I don't mind keeping this list going as long as I can;
>>> as
>>>> a matter of fact, I enjoy it quite a bit.  But this list has no
>>>> 'official' status with SAP, and it is just by grace of good luck that
>>> we
>>>> have some excellent SAP folks (you know who you are) on it.
>>>>
>>>> If you feel that this list should continue, again, please state why...
>>>> why you like it, why other sources don't meet your needs, etc.
>>>>
>>>> That, along with your $20 contribution, will keep SAP-WUG up and
>>> running.
>>>> Kidding (about the $20) for those of you who don't know me,
>>>> Sue
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>> --
>> Susan R. Keohan
>> SAP Workflow Developer
>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>> 244 Wood Street
>> LI-200
>> Lexington, MA. 02420
>> Phone: 781-981-3561
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> 
> 

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Susan R. Keohan
SAP Workflow Developer
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood Street
LI-200
Lexington, MA. 02420
Phone: 781-981-3561
Fax:   781-981-1607
keohan at ll.mit.edu