AW: Portals and Workflow

Wed Oct 22 19:23:10 EDT 2003

That's the general idea, Monica.
Jocelyn

-----Original Message-----
From: M Doe [mailto:monica_sap at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday,23 October 2003 1:55 AM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow

Thanks Jocelyn.

Just to confirm - the previous note SAPNOTE 487649(workflow restrictions on
the web) that mentioned the following

*********************************************************************************
           Links to application objects

                     Unlike the R/3 inbox (SBWP), the Web inbox (BWSP) DOES
NOT support navigation to the assigned application documents such as
purchase orders, deliveries or leave requests.
**********************************************************************************
You are saying that with this new UWL we can now look at the application
objects so we don't have this restriction on the web anymore.  Right?

Regards.
Monica

>From: "Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
>Reply-To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
>Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:42:24 +0200
>
>Monica,
>The new version of the Universal Worklist is 50.5.1 and is available from
>the iviewstudio.com site now.
>It was release a couple of weeks ago.
>Regards,
>         Jocelyn Dart
>Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
>and co-author of the book
>"Practical Workflow for SAP"
>SAP Australia
>email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
>phone: +61 412 390 267
>fax:   +61 2 9935 4880
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: M Doe [mailto:monica_sap at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Saturday,18 October 2003 5:10 AM
>To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: AW: Portals and Workflow
>
>
>Hi Alan,
>
>Since I am having a problem right now displaying the objects on the portal,
>I am very interested in finding out when we can access the object in the
>universal worklist.  You mentioned that it is about to reach your doorstep-
>is it out already in a new release.
>
>Can you please give us time guidelines and release info.
>
>Thanks.
>Monica
>
>
> >From: "Rickayzen, Alan" <alan.rickayzen at sap.com>
> >Reply-To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: AW: Portals and Workflow
> >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:44:07 +0200
> >
> >Bijay,
> >Please take a minute to read my blog on http://sdn.sap.com (anyone can
> >register). The object links in the universal worklist are just about to
> >reach your doorstep (thanks to the feedback from our last ASUG meeting in
> >May),
> >Alan
> >
> >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: Bijay Shrestha [mailto:Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com]
> >Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2003 21:05
> >An: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Betreff: Re: Portals and Workflow
> >
> >
> >Thank you for clarification.
> >
> >Bijay Shrestha
> >Ph: (763) 764-2201
> >Pager: (612) 661-2772
> >Email: Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com
> >"WebFlow gets the right information to the right people at the right
>time!"
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dart, Jocelyn [mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 8:12 PM
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> >
> >
> >Hi Bijay,
> >The display of objects is not available in ITS either, similarly
>secondary
> >methods are not available in the web inboxes.  This is due to issues
>around
> >controlling multiple web sessions.
> >As the UWL has some sort of hyperlink for objects, suggest you query OSS
>as
> >to how to use these hyperlinks or build your own.
> >Jocelyn
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bijay Shrestha [mailto:Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com]
> >Sent: Saturday,11 October 2003 4:24 AM
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm currently exploring and testing to implement workflow long term
> >solution via Portal or short term solution using ITS. I'm saying short
>term
> >because we are already running ITS for other purpose.
> >
> >From reading your posts, I learned that the display of object can not be
> >done in Portal. Is that correct?
> >
> >We are using Object Image Display 30001128 to display our archived
>document
> >in iXos. So if it can not be used it's kinda useless for us.
> >
> >Mark, what do you mean by "t's also obviously meant to be possible as the
> >object are listed with hyperlinks."? Can we have hyperlink instead?
> >
> >Bijay Shrestha
> >Ph: (763) 764-2201
> >Pager: (612) 661-2772
> >Email: Bijay.Shrestha at genmills.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mark Pyc [mailto:Mark.Pyc at boots.co.uk]
> >Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:41 AM
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: Re: Portals and Workflow
> >
> >
> >Excellent tips Joc!
> >
> >However, in the new sexy format all text formatting is out the window. Is
> >it possible to control line breaks in the long text desciption?? Also the
> >fear of the object links not working is true. It is possible to go the
>GUI
> >for HTML view, but it's not pretty. It's also obviously meant to be
> >possible as the object are listed with hyperlinks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Dart, Jocelyn" <jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
> >Sent by: SAP Workflow <Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >10/10/2003 08:36
> >Please respond to SAP Workflow Users' Group
> >
> >
> >         To:     SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        Re: Portals and Workflow
> >
> >
> >Hi Mark,
> >Long time no see.
> >Yes I have customers using the Universal Worklist iview in the portal and
> >I'm working at one right now.
> >
> >Substitutes - easiest approach to create your own iview/transaction to
> >support it - either just update HRUS_D2 transaction directly or use the
> >RH_SUBSTIT* function modules.  You can then distribute the subsitution to
> >the relevant systems.
> >
> >Work item display/User decisions - Make sure you have VERSION 2 of the
>UWL
> >(released May) and that you set the paramters ITS Mode and User Decision
> >(something like that) to FALSE rather than true in the UWL configuration.
> >This gives you the new sexy look and feel for the work item display and
> >for user decisions which is a huge improvement. For reasons of - keep it
> >the same as the last version - they default to TRUE which give you the
>old
> >less attractive display.
> >
> >Regards,
> >         Jocelyn Dart
> >Consultant (SRM, EBP, Workflow)
> >and co-author of the book
> >"Practical Workflow for SAP"
> >SAP Australia
> >email: jocelyn.dart at sap.com
> >phone: +61 412 390 267
> >fax:   +61 2 9935 4880
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mark Pyc [mailto:Mark.Pyc at boots.co.uk]
> >Sent: Friday,10 October 2003 4:31 AM
> >To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: Portals and Workflow
> >
> >
> >G'day Workflowers (no floral reference intended),
> >
> >A few general and a few specific...
> >
> >Is anyone running a Portal productively and using it as the only
>interface
> >to Workflow?
> >
> >It is not possible to maintain substitutes via the I-view universal
> >worklist as I understand it. I also believe this extension was due in the
> >next release of the i-view but this has been put on hold. What has anyone
> >put in place to cope with this? Access to SBWP via GUI for HTML does
>allow
> >it, however to me it seems that if users are to be trained on this then
> >the I-view is redundant. Positional substitutes through HR are possible
>if
> >a full Org struct is maintained. Alternatively develop a web transaction
> >to allow updates to HRUS_D2 (directly or via
> >RH_UPDATE_SUBST_LIST_SERVER)??.
> >
> >The display of Workitem (selecting the spectacles) through the Portal is
> >the same as if you select 'User View without Active X' in personal
> >settings through the GUI. Is this always the case?? The major problem is
> >that the WI description is limited in size depending on your screen
> >resolution (between 9 and 12 lines) and if navigate at all (scroll the
> >text, view the Available Objects tab and return, etc) the size is reduced
> >to 1 or 2 lines!?!? This seems completely unusable.
> >
> >OSS note 487649 indicates that Advance with Dialog is not possible via
>the
> >web. However I've found that Web Transaction steps do Advance with
>Dialog.
> >Are there any other treats that make Workflow on the web better?
> >
> >User decisions appear as if 'No HTML in execution of decision tasks' has
> >been selected. I understand that i-view Universal Worklist task mapping
> >allows i-view display of decisions, but I believe this precludes the
> >ability to display any attachment objects (BUS2081 for example). What
> >solution have you found most effective.
> >
> >Has anyone built custom i-views to cope with any of these issues? Has
> >anyone developed Business Server Pages? Can anyone give an indication of
> >development costs / required skill sets needed for success???
> >
> >I apologise for raking over old issues if these have been covered but
>I've
> >had little luck with search sap-wug over the last few days, and OSS
>hasn't
> >returned any gems either.
> >
> >If you're company has decided that Portals was an unusable solution than
>I
> >am equally interested in hearing about it.
> >
> >Have fun,
> >Mark Pyc
> >Smoothflow Consulting
>
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