Workflow definitions disappear

Fri Mar 7 07:34:42 EST 2003

Hiya,

We went (in stages) from 27 to 39 as well - quite a lot of notes to sort =
out, if the issue is indeed caused by this. Anyway, can't say I am =
particularly worried, stranger things have happened to me.

Regards,

Jeroen

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Pokraka [mailto:workflow at quirky.me.uk]
Sent: 07 March 2003 12:36
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Workflow definitions disappear

Hi, (collective response to all three posts)
The task exists, it's description (and not sure what else) disappears.
Looking at some of the tables (HRSOBJECTS, HRS1000), most of the record
appears blank.
One can still edit the WF by normal means, but it's still slightly
worrying that things just disappear. So far we do seem to have
established that nothing critical goes.. This happens with SWDD and
PFTC.
Jeroen - what hotpacks did you apply? We went from 31 (I think) to 39 a
while back - within around the same timeframe this started happening.

Thanks all for your feedback,
Cheers
Mike

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:10:05PM +0100, Van der Burg, Jeroen JA =
SITI-ITPSEE wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Recently had the same problem, description got removed a few times for =
one particular custom workflow template; is fine now. Do not have a clue =
why unfortunately.
>
> We are on 46c and have recently uploaded a couple of service packs so =
expect the problem is coming from there (did not have the issue in the =
past).
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Jeroen
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Pokraka [mailto:workflow at quirky.me.uk]
> Sent: 07 March 2003 11:58
> To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Workflow definitions disappear
>
>
> Hi,
> Just thought I'd post an update:
> Two people from OSS have been in our system, seen the effects, but
> (understandably) the cause remains elusive without being able to
> reproduce the problem.
> All developers are on alert to check and - if it happens - try to
> remember what they did, and try to reproduce it. If anyone out there
> experiences these disappearing workflow descriptions and can reproduce
> it, I'd appreciate any input. We still have the OSS call open, but as
> Murphy would have it, this is not happening at present.
>
> Cheers
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 02:03:08PM -0500, Nobles, Diane wrote:
> > Michael keep us posted.  I want to cut this off at the pass.  We are
> > currently on support pack 33 and we are scheduled to implement this =
one
> > around August of this year.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Catherine Schumann [mailto:catherine.schumann at bbc.co.uk]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:39 PM
> > To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Workflow definitions disappear
> >
> >
> > 46c support pack 27 - yes, somewhat behind, but our management wants =
to
> > treat support packs as upgrades (!)
> >
> > Thanks - it is not deleting any other part of the definition, but it =
is a
> > bit disconcerting not being able to find my workflow suddenly.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Pokraka [mailto:workflow at quirky.me.uk]
> > Sent: 18 February 2003 15:31
> > To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Workflow definitions disappear
> >
> >
> > Oops, sorry. 4.6c support pack 39.
> > I've logged it with OSS, will post any results if noone here has any =
answer.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mike
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 09:21:15AM -0500, Nobles, Diane wrote:
> > > What version are you guys on????
> > >
> > > Diane H. Nobles
> > > SAP System Engineer, PM, WF
> > > (757) 380-7250
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Catherine Schumann [mailto:catherine.schumann at bbc.co.uk]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:10 AM
> > > To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: Workflow definitions disappear
> > >
> > >
> > > I wish I had an answer, but the same thing has happened to us.
> > >
> > > It's good to know that it is not just us - we thought it was just
> > > something that we had done.  Now it looks like there may be a =
rational
> > > explanation.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Pokraka [mailto:workflow at quirky.me.uk]
> > > Sent: 18 February 2003 10:05
> > > To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > > Subject: Workflow definitions disappear
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I'm going to report this to OSS, but just in case someone has seen
> > > this
> > > before:
> > > Doing nothing unusual, most of the workflow task information =
spontaneously
> > > combusts. Well, not actually, but all the fields go blank. Thus we =
end up
> > > with a task WS90000001, with no description and no further =
information.
> > Task
> > > abbreviation is also blank. I checked some of the underlying =
records in
> > > HRSOBJECT and HRS1000, and there s a record containing a key WS =
and
> > > 900000001, with the rest of the fields blank.
> > >
> > > The workflow itself is still fine, just the task cannot be found =
via
> > > search help and basically does not exist unless you specifically =
type
> > > in the number. Then you can continue work on 'Unnamed' (with the =
flow
> > > and all other taskes intact).
> > >
> > > Even stranger, this has happened to two developers with two =
different
> > > workflows. The sequence of events is something along the lines of
> > > editing something, saving it - standard stuff, and sometime later =
we
> > > notice it's blank.
> > >
> > > Any ideas????
> > > Thanks
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/
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