Role using Responsibility Rule ?

[Dart, Jocelyn]

Hi Chavi,
The rule is independent and does not have access to the workflow container.  So the only way to pass the workflow initiator in would be via rule criteria.  You could do what you want using a programmed rule.  Your programmed rule could then call the responsibility rule where the rest of the data is maintained.
 
But I think in the example shown it would be a *HUGE MISTAKE!!!* to create complex programmed rules simply to save maintaining the data in a development environment.  If you don't test your data properly in development by trying to simulate as closely as possible what is happening in production up to and including how people will go about maintaining rule data then the opportunity for misdesign and error is significant to say the least.
Regards,
Jocelyn Dart.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: casdhir at att.net
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Sent: 25/07/2003 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: Role using Responsibility Rule ?
 
HI Jocelyn,
 
I was not confused when I asked this question but let me try explaining
the
scenario again by taking a simple example.
 
Lets say that you have Rule defined based on container element sysid
which can
have three values DEV, QAS and PRD. Now here is what I would like to do
in the
rule determination.
 
      SYSID               -      Agent Assignment
 
 1.     DEV               -      &_WF_INITIATOR&
 2.     QAS               -      Work Center A  (or Position, Org Units
etc)
 3.     PRD               -      Work Center B  (or Position, Org Units
etc)
 
We can do step 2 and 3 but not 1. Is there is a way I could assign a
container
element in the responsibility which can be passed via binding? As I said
earlier I could develop a custom role to accomplish the same but this
appear to
be more user friendly as I could assign all kinds of Org. objects to the
responsibility and maintenance of the Role is easier.
 
Thanks for responding.
 
Bye.
Chavi.
 
>  Hi Chavi,
> I think you are perhaps a little confused about the relationship
between
> workflow steps and agents.
>
> A responsibility rule is a way to *find* the agent for a workflow
step.  And yes
> they are terrific for doing that. I'm glad you like them - I also
think they are
> the bee's knees!
>
> However, if you have *already found* the agent, and have the agent
id(s) sitting
> in a workflow container element of the relevant type (such as
WFSYST-AGENT,
> WFSYST-INITIATOR, RHOBJECTS-OBJECTID, etc. - single or multiline),
then in your
> workflow step you simply use the EXPRESSION option to point to that
container
> element, instead of the rule option.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Regards,
> Jocelyn Dart.
> SAP Australia.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: casdhir at att.net
> To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Sent: 24/07/2003 9:11 PM
> Subject: Role using Responsibility Rule ?
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was wondering if there is a way when creating a Role using
> Responsibility
> that one can assign a container element i.e. Event creator to the
> Responsibility. Currently the Rule allows you to assign an
organization
> object
> i.e. Work center, Position, user etc but it will make it more flexible
> if you
> can pass a container element containing agents which will make it more
> flexible. I know I can create a custom Role but I like to use the sap
> new way
> of agent determination using Responsibility.
>
> Thanks.
> Chavi.