Maintenance of substitutions

[Roehlen, Peter]

Hi all,
 
First, sorry for the very late response to this thread.
 
I don't want to be a spoiler, but I would avoid the below approach in
principle.
 
Arguably you could do something like this for any SAP table - eg HR master
data, PM orders etc etc.  The only problem is that tables like this do not
have the flag "Table maintenance allowed" turned on in the data dictionary,
and for very good reason.  Maintaining data directly in these tables (ie not
through the application layer) potentially bypasses security, locking and,
perhaps more importantly, is ignorant of any application rules potentially
leading to data inconsistency.
 
For example, hypothetically SAP may at any time change the application code
relating to substitutions so that another dependant table (in addtion to
HRUS_D2) is updated whenever a substitution is updated.  Over time as you
continue to update HRUS_D2 directly, the inconsistency between it and it's
dependant table grows.  Pretty soon you would find that the substitution
feature might not work at all.  You would then find that when you logged
this on OSS, SAP would wipe their hands of responsibility for this.  It is
akin to coding direct table updates in a Z* ABAP.
 
The above scenario may be unlikely in the case of substitutions, but you can
bet that if you tried this approach with other tables you would pretty
quickly come unstuck.
 
Anyway, that's my two cents worth..
 
Peter Roehlen
Team Lead - SAP Technical & Development
Powercor Australia Ltd
0409 950 263
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dart, Jocelyn [mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com]
Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2001 9:39
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Maintenance of substitutions
 
 
Hi Michael/Diane,
I've now tried this on site myself and I'd like to say thanks muchly to
Michael.   This approach is a lovely simple solution to the problem,
as then both positional substitutions (via the A210 relationship and the HR
transactions)
and user substitutions (via the maintenance view) can be centrally
maintained.
Particularly in EBP where often only the user substitution
level counts.
Regards,
        Jocelyn Dart
Consultant (EBP, BBP, Ecommerce, Internet Transaction Server, Workflow)
SAP Australia
Email jocelyn.dart at sap.com <mailto:jocelyn.dart at sap.com>
Tel: +61 412 390 267
Fax: +61 2 9935 4880
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nobles, Diane [mailto:nobles_dh at naptheon.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 2:55 AM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Maintenance of substitutions
 
 
Are we recommending that substitutions be managed this way?  Is this the
best way, (most efficient and economical) or could it be handled better by
each process workflow owner?
 
Diane H. Nobles
SDE PM Team
(757)380-7250
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Do not be overcome by evil, but
overcome evil with good. Romans 12:21
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: michel Tallon [mailto:michel.tallon at ifrance.com]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:35 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Maintainance of substitutions
 
 
Hi, Albin
 
Substitution are managed by table HRUS_D2.
If you want to centralize the substitution with an administrator, you just
have to create a maintenance view for this table and that'all, you can
manage all substitutions.
We used this for a customer and it works fine.
 
Regards.
 
Michel Tallon.
 
 
-----Message d'origine-----
De : SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU]De la part de
Zinnecker, Albin, MK
Envoyi : lundi 9 juillet 2001 18:36
@ : SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Objet : Maintainance of substitutions
 
 
Hi everyone,
 
I'm on 4.6B and try to maintain substitutions in the Business Workplace for
all of our users. The maintainance should be made by only one central
administrator and not by every user. As I know, substitutions are user
specific so we're looking for a possibility - maybe a report or anything
else - for a central maintainance.
 
Has anyone else done this before (if there is a solution...).
 
Many thanks in advance.
 
Regards,
 
Albin Zinnecker
 
management|service, MK
GEW Kvln AG, Parkg|rtel 24, 50823 Kvln
 
E-Mail a.zinnecker at gewkoelnag.de
Telefon +49 221 178 2622
Fax +49 221 178 82622
 
 
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