[Editors] Latin question

[Beryl Rosenthal]

So a few years ago I walked into a museum with an exhibition of  
carnival paraphernalia and there was a HUGE pair of pants with the  
phrase, "semper ubi sub ubi".  Loosely translated: "Always wear  
underwear."
Beryl

On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Alice Waugh wrote:

> Well, all I can say to that is "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum  
> videtur" and maybe "clamo, clamatis, omnes clamamus pro glace  
> lactis" as well. So there.
>
> Alice Waugh
>
> P.S. See this site for translations: http://www.yuni.com/library/ 
> latin.html
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Scott R Campbell wrote:
>
>> Wow.  This crowd.  I am thoroughly amused and enlightened.  I  
>> think we should all go out for a drink and toast ourselves.  In  
>> emphatical Latin.
>> ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯
>> Scott Campbell
>> Director of Communications	
>> MIT School of Architecture + Planning
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Tom Pixton wrote:
>>
>>> The Latin word "pectus" means "breast" but also can mean "soul"  
>>> or "mind." Pectus is the nominative singluar, pectoris the  
>>> genitive singular. "Pectus pectoris" means "heart of a heart" so  
>>> you probably wouldn't want that. Latin nouns are often given in  
>>> grammar books in the first and second forms of their declensions,  
>>> ie, "res, rei," or "thing (nominative case)", "thing (genitive  
>>> case)". Your brother probably didn't intend for you to write  
>>> "pectus pectoris." More likely: Mens, Manus et Pectus.
>>>
>>> But this sounds very odd, mostly because "pectus" sounds like  
>>> "pectoral muscles" (which of course is it's English cognate). I'd  
>>> suggest using "cor, cordis" which means "heart" as in, seat of  
>>> emotion. It also can mean "mind" and judgement". So you'd say,  
>>> "mens manus et cor." Sounds nicer than the pecky thing.
>>>
>>> You could also say "cor, cor et atque cor" as in "mind,  
>>> judgement, and [yet again] heart"
>>>
>>> Non sapis atque sapis [Virgil],
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:44 AM, William T G Litant wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone out there have an expertise in Latin? (Mine is  
>>>> limited to the Pig dialect.) Qestion:
>>>>
>>>> As you (better) know, the MIT motto is "Mens et Manus." For an  
>>>> article I'm wiritng, I want to add "and heart." Is it correct to  
>>>> say "Mens et Manus et Pectus"? My brother, the scholar, thinks  
>>>> it may be "Mens et Manus et Pectus Pectoris," but advises me to  
>>>> seek professional help (which the whole family has been urging  
>>>> me to do for years).
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone assist?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bill
>>>> -- 
>>>> William T.G. Litant
>>>> Communications Director
>>>> Aeronautics and Astronautics Department
>>>> and
>>>> The Partnership for AiR Transportation Noise and Emissions  
>>>> Reduction
>>>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>>>> 77 Massachusetts  Ave. 37-395
>>>> Cambridge, MA 02139
>>>> wlitant at mit.edu
>>>> (617) 253-1564
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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