[Editors] Latin question

Beryl Rosenthal berylr at MIT.EDU
Wed Apr 25 14:47:52 EDT 2007


Nah, it just means somebody paid attention in Catholic school...!
Beryl
On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Scott R Campbell wrote:

> Wow.  This crowd.  I am thoroughly amused and enlightened.  I think  
> we should all go out for a drink and toast ourselves.  In  
> emphatical Latin.
> ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯
> Scott Campbell
> Director of Communications	
> MIT School of Architecture + Planning
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Tom Pixton wrote:
>
>> The Latin word "pectus" means "breast" but also can mean "soul" or  
>> "mind." Pectus is the nominative singluar, pectoris the genitive  
>> singular. "Pectus pectoris" means "heart of a heart" so you  
>> probably wouldn't want that. Latin nouns are often given in  
>> grammar books in the first and second forms of their declensions,  
>> ie, "res, rei," or "thing (nominative case)", "thing (genitive  
>> case)". Your brother probably didn't intend for you to write  
>> "pectus pectoris." More likely: Mens, Manus et Pectus.
>>
>> But this sounds very odd, mostly because "pectus" sounds like  
>> "pectoral muscles" (which of course is it's English cognate). I'd  
>> suggest using "cor, cordis" which means "heart" as in, seat of  
>> emotion. It also can mean "mind" and judgement". So you'd say,  
>> "mens manus et cor." Sounds nicer than the pecky thing.
>>
>> You could also say "cor, cor et atque cor" as in "mind, judgement,  
>> and [yet again] heart"
>>
>> Non sapis atque sapis [Virgil],
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:44 AM, William T G Litant wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone out there have an expertise in Latin? (Mine is  
>>> limited to the Pig dialect.) Qestion:
>>>
>>> As you (better) know, the MIT motto is "Mens et Manus." For an  
>>> article I'm wiritng, I want to add "and heart." Is it correct to  
>>> say "Mens et Manus et Pectus"? My brother, the scholar, thinks it  
>>> may be "Mens et Manus et Pectus Pectoris," but advises me to seek  
>>> professional help (which the whole family has been urging me to  
>>> do for years).
>>>
>>> Can anyone assist?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
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