[ecco-support] [EXTERNAL] Request for a specific configuration of ECCOv4

[Jones, Dan]

Hi Matt,

Oh, that's strange. No idea why that's happening. Here' is Paola's response:
I think what Dan is saying is that if you want to isolate the effect of winds form that of purely buoyancy flux, the bulk formulas for heat and salt exchange depend on the wind stress as well, and it is difficult then of separating the two effects. At least, this is my interprestation, and it is a good point.
Did that show up okay for you?

I'd love to hear your thoughts about this. It's an issue that Yavor and Helen have been discussing recently here in the UK.

Thanks,
Dan

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From: Matthew Mazloff <mmazloff at ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Re: [ecco-support] [EXTERNAL] Request for a specific configuration of ECCOv4

Hi Dan

For some reason I’m only seeing your emails on this thread. Can you please forward me the whole thread? Or at least the relevant responses like Paola’s.

And any idea why I’m not seeing them?

Thanks
Matt


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:50 AM Dan Jones <dcjones.work at gmail.com<mailto:dcjones.work at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

Yes, Paola's description is consistent with my understanding of the issue. If we want to treat buoyancy flux and wind stress separately, then we probably shouldn't use the bulk formulas, at least not "out of the box". Buoyancy flux and wind stress are coupled through the bulk formulas.

This isn't an issue for most optimisation tasks or sensitivity studies. It's more of an issue for adjoint reconstructions, for which it is arguably conceptually cleaner to separate changes due to wind stress anomalies from changes due to net buoyancy flux anomalies.

Thanks,
Dan
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