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Oh, that's strange. No idea why that's happening. Here' is Paola's response:<br>
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<span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">I think what Dan is saying is that if you want to isolate the effect of winds form that of purely
buoyancy flux, the bulk formulas for heat and salt exchange depend on the wind stress as well, and it is difficult then of separating the two effects. At least, this is my interprestation, and it is a good point.</span><br>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">Did that show up okay for you?</span></div>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important">I'd love to hear your thoughts about this. It's an issue that Yavor and Helen have been
discussing recently here in the UK. <br>
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Dan</span></div>
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<b>To:</b> ECCO support list, wider membership <ecco-support@mit.edu>; Jones, Dan <dannes@bas.ac.uk><br>
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<div dir="auto">For some reason I’m only seeing your emails on this thread. Can you please forward me the whole thread? Or at least the relevant responses like Paola’s.</div>
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<div dir="auto">And any idea why I’m not seeing them?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks </div>
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Hi all,<br>
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Yes, Paola's description is consistent with my understanding of the issue. If we want to treat buoyancy flux and wind stress separately, then we probably shouldn't use the bulk formulas, at least not "out of the box". Buoyancy flux and wind stress are coupled
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This isn't an issue for most optimisation tasks or sensitivity studies. It's more of an issue for adjoint reconstructions, for which it is arguably conceptually cleaner to separate changes due to wind stress anomalies from changes due to net buoyancy flux anomalies. <br>
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