[Dspace-general] Google Scholar & DSpace Google

[Martin Courtois]

I guess I need to ask a few questions before I can respond to
MacKenzie's question about pulling the plug on DSpace Google.

Is the plan that only Google Scholar will contain content from DSpace
sites or will DSpace content also be available by searching "regular"
Google?

I don't know much about DSpace Google, but it sounds like the idea was
for Google to take steps _not_ to crawl DSpace sites other than the 17
participating institutions?  If that is the case, I'm a bit surprised
that Google contains DSpace content from other institutions, such as
this dissertation from University of MD:

Cultural Intervention, Activist Art and Discourses of Oppositionality in
the US, 1980-2000

At this point, is Google crawling any/all DSpace sites, just like any
other web site?

Marty

Martin Courtois
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Quoting MacKenzie Smith <kenzie at mit.edu>:

> Hi Scott,
>
> I apologize, with all the hoopla over Google Scholar I'd sort of
> forgotten
> about our little experiment with Google...
> if I haven't already said this out loud, let me know say that I think
> we
> should collectively bail on the DSpace Google
> experiment -- Google Scholar is far more useful and includes all of
> our
> content anyway (or will eventually as they
> keep crawling).
>
> For the present time, limiting search result to a small subset of
> DSpace
> sites (17 out of more than 70) is pretty useless for users.
> If we decided to continue with the DSpace Google thing then at that
> very
> least we'd need to include all the DSpace repositories
> so that we get closer to the 80,000+ items of content that are out
> there.
>
> But as I say, Google Scholar looks to be the far more useful service
> down
> the road. The only change I've asked them for
> that would make a big difference is some way to easily distinguish
> open
> access from commercial results.
>
> What do others think? Time to pull the plug on DSpace Google?
>
> MacKenzie
>
> At 03:20 PM 1/13/2005 +1100, Scott Yeadon wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >In reference to the following article, we've had queries regarding
> the
> >future of the DSpace Google in relation to Google scholar (e.g.
> >convergence, DSpace/specific repository search as a possible filter,
> >separate services, etc) Has anyone any thoughts or info on this
> >http://chronicle.com/free/2004/11/2004111901n.htm?
> >
> >I'd be grateful for any detail on the nature of the relationship (if
> any)
> >between the two projects, whether that relationship continues and
> whether
> >the DSpace initiative will proceed independently of Google Scholar.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Scott.
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