[Oww-Feedback] Contact us. (from Ofri Raviv)

Mon May 19 17:00:27 EDT 2008

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:53 PM, julius.lucks <julius.lucks at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have blog drafts for ideas of posts that are just a couple of notes and
> links - nothing coherent.  The way blogs are with RSS alerts and such, I
> don't want to call attention to just notes and links - I think people would
> quickly stop paying attention.  If however I ensure that every time I post I
> have a well developed (I hope anyway!) post, then people will take the time
> to read it.

yeah, I have drafts too, but I just keep them in a google doc.  I do
think the wiki is slightly different, it's more of a catch all for
lots of different info.  the blog is more like a paper, longer time
scale between posts, higher quality.

> It would be an interesting experiment to offer such a feature for some
> subset of activities just to see the data.  Sometimes I write stuff offline
> until it is a good rough draft, then put it up on the wiki to start
> collecting the history of edits off of that base.  We have no idea how much
> content is being put off line like this.

Sure, but then whatever feature we make needs to compete with the
other "offline" solutions.  A word doc, or google doc, etc.  We have
been running an experiment with private wikis.  There are a few labs
that have them, to date I haven't seen massive amounts of stuff leap
from the private to the public wiki -- though maybe it's time to go
back and look in detail at how that experiment went.

thanks,
jason

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> On May 19, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Jason Kelly wrote:
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> Yeah, I think this (e.g. "i don't want anything out there with my name
> on it that isn't perfect) is a common concern among scientists.
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> I am inclined to say that I would like such a feature
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> My fear (as usual) is that the data will never leave this
> (semi-private) zone.  I think over time people will get used to the
> idea that the wiki (or things like it) aren't the same as
> peer-reviewed publications, and it's OK if you post things there that
> are a work-in-progress.  but that might not play out?
> thanks,
> jason
> 2008/5/19 julius.lucks <julius.lucks at gmail.com>:
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> That's an interesting point Bill.  I am inclined to say that I would like
> such a feature, but maybe once it is published, the full history is
> published as well.
> J
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> On May 19, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Bill Flanagan wrote:
> What about this comment:
> "the main concern right now is making half-baked-data public"
> I wonder how prevalent this concern is.
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> From the perspective of researchers, should we think about providing some
> way of  screening some parts of a person's set of pages from public purview?
> For instance, in Wordpress, I can create a post and save it without pushing
> the button to "publish" it. A blog post can stay in this state forever. OWW
> currently supports Wordpress for all of our blogs; in this sense OWW already
> is providing a tool that keep drafts out of the public web unitl the author
> says, "GO!". Until then, the article can be revised and rewritten until the
> cows come home.
> I'm sorry if I sound naive but I'm not a researcher. I just hang with them
> on the web.
> Thanks.
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> 2008/5/19 julius.lucks <julius.lucks at gmail.com>:
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> I didn't reply because I'm not sure what our policy is.  My vote is to
> include them.  Anyone else?
> Julius
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> On May 19, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Ilya Sytchev wrote:
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> OpenWetWare Feedback Form on OpenWetWare wrote:
> Hi OWW,
> first - keep up the great work! i love what you are doing here!
> i am a research student in Merav Ahissar's lab in the Hebrew
> University in Jerusalem ( http://micro5.mscc.huji.ac.il/~ahissar/ ) i
> am working on convincing my lab's people that a wiki is a great way
> to manage our data and knowledge. the main concern right now is
> making half-baked-data public. most people would like to have some
> private pages. we are also checking other alternatives, like content
> management systems.
> assuming we get over the need for private pages, we get to my
> question: our lab is more a cognitive psychology and neuroscience
> lab.  what is your policy regarding such labs? the main page states
> that OWW is meant to be a biology knowledge base...
> Thanks in advance,
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