[Oww-Feedback] Contact us. (from Ofri Raviv)

julius.lucks julius.lucks at gmail.com
Mon May 19 16:53:58 EDT 2008


I have blog drafts for ideas of posts that are just a couple of notes  
and links - nothing coherent.  The way blogs are with RSS alerts and  
such, I don't want to call attention to just notes and links - I  
think people would quickly stop paying attention.  If however I  
ensure that every time I post I have a well developed (I hope  
anyway!) post, then people will take the time to read it.

Wikis could be different, but I think there are some similar elements  
here.

It would be an interesting experiment to offer such a feature for  
some subset of activities just to see the data.  Sometimes I write  
stuff offline until it is a good rough draft, then put it up on the  
wiki to start collecting the history of edits off of that base.  We  
have no idea how much content is being put off line like this.

J


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On May 19, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Jason Kelly wrote:

> Yeah, I think this (e.g. "i don't want anything out there with my name
> on it that isn't perfect) is a common concern among scientists.
>
>> I am inclined to say that I would like such a feature
>
> My fear (as usual) is that the data will never leave this
> (semi-private) zone.  I think over time people will get used to the
> idea that the wiki (or things like it) aren't the same as
> peer-reviewed publications, and it's OK if you post things there that
> are a work-in-progress.  but that might not play out?
>
> thanks,
> jason
>
> 2008/5/19 julius.lucks <julius.lucks at gmail.com>:
>> That's an interesting point Bill.  I am inclined to say that I  
>> would like
>> such a feature, but maybe once it is published, the full history is
>> published as well.
>> J
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>> On May 19, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Bill Flanagan wrote:
>>
>> What about this comment:
>>
>> "the main concern right now is making half-baked-data public"
>>
>> I wonder how prevalent this concern is.
>>
>>
>> From the perspective of researchers, should we think about  
>> providing some
>> way of  screening some parts of a person's set of pages from  
>> public purview?
>>
>> For instance, in Wordpress, I can create a post and save it  
>> without pushing
>> the button to "publish" it. A blog post can stay in this state  
>> forever. OWW
>> currently supports Wordpress for all of our blogs; in this sense  
>> OWW already
>> is providing a tool that keep drafts out of the public web unitl  
>> the author
>> says, "GO!". Until then, the article can be revised and rewritten  
>> until the
>> cows come home.
>>
>> I'm sorry if I sound naive but I'm not a researcher. I just hang  
>> with them
>> on the web.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> 2008/5/19 julius.lucks <julius.lucks at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I didn't reply because I'm not sure what our policy is.  My vote  
>>> is to
>>> include them.  Anyone else?
>>> Julius
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>>> On May 19, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Ilya Sytchev wrote:
>>>
>>> Did anyone reply to this person?
>>>
>>> OpenWetWare Feedback Form on OpenWetWare wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi OWW,
>>> first - keep up the great work! i love what you are doing here!
>>> i am a research student in Merav Ahissar's lab in the Hebrew
>>> University in Jerusalem ( http://micro5.mscc.huji.ac.il/ 
>>> ~ahissar/ ) i
>>> am working on convincing my lab's people that a wiki is a great way
>>> to manage our data and knowledge. the main concern right now is
>>> making half-baked-data public. most people would like to have some
>>> private pages. we are also checking other alternatives, like content
>>> management systems.
>>> assuming we get over the need for private pages, we get to my
>>> question: our lab is more a cognitive psychology and neuroscience
>>> lab.  what is your policy regarding such labs? the main page states
>>> that OWW is meant to be a biology knowledge base...
>>> Thanks in advance,
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