[WinPartners] "Demoting" a user

[Atticus O Gifford]

Quoting Kerem B Limon <k_limon at MIT.EDU>:

> Eudora will work perfectly fine with the Windows 2000 and above security
> model,
> but IS&T's installer still seems to be using the old model of keeping stuff
> in
> %SystemDrive%\Users\<username>\Eudora. Ordinary users on a machine do not
> have
> access to the %SystemDrive% or below for write access outside of the usual
> Windows folders.
> 
> Solution (and the proper way to use the app) is to let Eudora place its
> settings
> in the user's profile directory, under
> %UserProfile%\ApplicationData\Qualcomm\Eudora (untile at least as long as
> this
> isn't a domain machine and/or won't be up/downloading that profile
> frequently;
> you can get around that with redirects, but that's beyond the scope of
> this).

This is all true.  We still have clients (or did the last time we revisited the
decision to use the old c:\users\<username>\ hierarchy) that need the existing
setup.  It may be that we can migrate from that, but it involve a decent amount
of time on our part to handle the migration and examine all the use scenarios. 
When/if we release a new version of Eudora (6.3.x or higher) we will look at
this again.  We'd be interested in hearing from anyone who particularly
requires the multiple users under one account scenario that we are using right
now.

For administrators who would like to bypass the wizard, I have provided a
transform that you can deploy with the MSI, or apply permanently here:

<http://itinfo.mit.edu/article.php?id=7647>

This will suppress the installation and running of the Settings Wizard.  This
way users will simply run Eudora and create a Eudora folder under Application
Data.  The settings wizard will also work with existing user folders under
Application Data, so using the MIT installers going forward will work as
expected (unless you don't want to take the MIT defaults).  If you don't want
the MIT default settings for SMTP authentication and the like, you can also use
the Admin tool listed on the same page as the No Wizard Transform:

<http://itinfo.mit.edu/article.php?id=7647>

It gives the user finer-grained controls over what settings are applied, and
allows the administrator to add custom settings as well.  This should work on
directories containing single Eudora Folders as well as network shares
containing hundreds of users.  Just point it at your Application Data\Qualcomm\
directory (or wherever) and give it a try.

As always, any suggestions and comments are welcome and we will do our best to
incorporate them into future versions of the installer.

Thanks,
Atticus


> You can change the DEudora.ini and the users Eudora.ini files accordingly,
> but
> the easiest method for you is to get the plain Eudora installer from
> Qualcomm
> and then enter MIT's registration ID (look in the About dialog of an MIT
> Eudora
> installation). Then, when setting up, choose to save the data in the users'
> application data folder. This way all users on the machine will have their
> own
> distinct mail kept as part of their profile, and won't need admin
> privileges.
> And you won't need to create custom Eudora shortcuts for each, just
> executing
> Eudora.exe will "do the right thing".
> 
> BTW, if you are worried about staying with the currently distributed version
> of
> Eudora from IS&T, older Eudora installers are available also from Qualcomm
> (finally) at http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2350hq.html .
> 
> -Kerem
> 
> 
> Quoting Dave Broderick <djbroder at MIT.EDU>:
> 
> > I have a user who chronically loads his machine down with spyware and
> worse.
> > 
> > I tried Setting him up as Administrator, and "demoting" him to User after 
> > Eudora was installed, but Eudora won't work correctly. He loses permission
> 
> > to write to his In and Out (and other) mailboxes when he is demoted.
> > 
> > I can't get this to work right at his time. Any hints?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David J. Broderick
> > djbroder at mit.edu
> >          Audio Visual Project Technician
> >          MIT AV 617 253 2808
> >          FAX 617 253 5945
> >          <http://web.mit.edu/djbroder/www>http://web.mit.edu/djbroder/www
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Kerem B. Limon
> kerem.limon at mit.edu /e-mail
> 
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