[Tango-L] Cadence, cadenza, cadencia

[Ruben Malan]

Excellent illustrative clarification.
Thanks esjune!
Now, for the traditional AT dancers in Buenos Aires, the word "cadencia" o 
"bailar con cadencia" has a different meaning.
I'd like to read posts with authoritative definitions of the concept from 
the people who  "own" the tradition,
the Uruguayan and Argentine milongueros.

Ruben


> This is probably detracting from the main discussion of what is cadencia, 
> so I've created a separate topic. I am making the point that words in 
> different languages may appear similar but the meaning may be completely 
> different. Depending on which term you use - cadencia (Spanish), cadenza 
> (Italian),  or cadence (English), my point is that ideas get lost in 
> translation and we need to use a term in its original language whenever 
> possible.
> While the Italian term "cadenza" also translates to "cadence" in English, 
> the two terms mean different things to musicians.
> Now I'm venturing into the world of music. This is relevant because most 
> tango musicians have Italian roots. However I won't go into what cadence 
> (English) technically means to musicians (suffice to say that it refers to 
> various forms to close musical phrases with generally two  chords).
> But I shall describe the Italian term "cadenza". When you speak with a 
> musician, cadenza as marked in  orchestral scores refers to a fairly long 
> passage of music during which a solo instrumentalist plays flourishes 
> before ending  with a cadence (which is intended to signal to the 
> conductor and the rest of the orchestra the close of the soloist's 
> exhibition of virtuosi). Because the cadence "bookmarks" the virtuosi 
> passage, it has become the practice to call the entire virtuosi passage a 
> cadenza. I've come across cadenzas during many concertos which I've had 
> the pleasure of performing as a  member of the orchestra's rank and file, 
> but I've never heard of a cadenza in any of the tango music I've danced 
> to, so let's  disregard this meaning for tango.
> I've mentioned cadenza so that it is evident that one differentiates 
> between what cadence  means to a dancer and what it means to a musician. 
> Most importantly, the point is that the term "cadence" translate back to 
> their original languages have different meanings.
>
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