[Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?

[AJ Azure]

No one was talking money but, since you are. That's ridiculous.
A recording does not and will never fully replace a living musician.

The other aspect is that the public under values musicians. They think we'll
work for food or booze. There are sadly musicians who feed that
misconception.

You're certainly entitled to see and hear what you want just don't ruin it
for others by imposing your preferences on to others as the end all be all
only way and it's all good.

-A


> From: Anton Stanley <anton at alidas.com.au>
> Reply-To: <anton at alidas.com.au>
> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 20:20:26 -0300
> To: <Tango-L at mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
> 
> I have worked with artists, actors and musicians for a quite lengthy period
> of my life. I value many as my friends. However I won't accept even a little
> responsibility for the lack of opportunity they have to earn a decent living
> from their chosen profession. I blame their compatriots in the arts. If
> their fellow artists, in the past or present, had not through greed or
> vanity, allowed themselves to be recorded or filmed or have their works
> reproduced, there would in the wealthy parts of the world, be ample
> opportunity to earn a good living.
> As a self interested member of the general population, I prefer to listen,
> see or experience the best when given the choice and affordability. I don't
> listen or dance to music by logic, but rather by how I enjoy it. Do I need
> to apologise?
> 
> Anton
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
> AJ Azure
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:34 PM
> To: tango-l at mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
> 
> I run multiple gropes. One is a nostalgia group doing multiple 1900-1940s
> styles i.e the way dance bands used to exist. The other group is an all
> tango group.
> Are we perfect? No. I have background in tango from childhood (not
> Piazzolla). My grandmother was a singer in BsAs but, the others, yah we have
> had to teach them. The most inspiring thing to get better at is to see
> people dancing to it. So sure there's growing pains but, when those are
> accompanied by a supportive community with an open mind, ultimately you get
> good results.
> 
> Paying musicians, definitely.
> 
> Bandoneon (if you can't find it), why?
> 
> Tango isn't strictly the cliché orquesta tipica instruments. I bet you'd be
> surprised that steel guitar used to be involved in tango. Look up Oscar
> Aleman and Los Lupes. It was a duo that did among different styles, tango.
> They were from Argentina by the way. That happens to be my instrument as
> well.
> 
> Heck find a duo of guitar and violin and you can get some decent music to
> dance to. This isn't an either or. You can still have Djed content and live.
> 
> 
> _A
> 
> 
>> From: Steve Littler <sl at stevelittler.com>
>> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:23:42 -0400
>> To: <tango-l at mit.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Why are you dancing tango if you don't like tango?
>> 
>> I didn't get from your original post that you had a Tango band. I
>> assumed you had a swing band or some other type.
>> 
>> If you have a Tango Dance band I'm sure everyone on this list would
>> welcome you to their milonga, over recorded music, if they could afford
>> your band.
>> 
>> In small cities like where I live, we probably couldn't. But we would
>> probably travel Tampa to dance with you.
>> 
>> We've tried to get a Tango band here, but our problem has been to find a
>> bandoneon player (and of course a budget. Obviously musicians deserve
>> compensation.)
>> 
>> El Stevito de Gainesville
>> 
>> On 5/5/2010 4:30 PM, AJ Azure wrote:
>>> As for how they play, there plenty of bad swing bands too. It doesn't
> mean
>>> you apply that across the board.  I for one have no interest in neo or
> nuevo
>>> and do all old but, am not so closed that I  don't  like incorporating
>>> modern ideas in to some arrangements while keeping it traditional.
>>> My orchestra wouldn't stand a chance with you because, you've already
> made
>>> up your mind. That's sad. I'm just glad your attitude is not the all
>>> encompassing one. I'm doing an event at the Player's Club in NY and The
> PA
>>> Museum of Art and that to me says (thankfully) people still want live
> music
>>> with their tango.
>>> It's sad that you seem to be unable to be touched by the live music
>>> interaction.
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