[Tango-L] Tango in film and what is traditional?

[Alberto Gesualdi]

Well, unfortunately, there are no such films or clips , Vince.

It is as you say, what may be seen on movies is a show , or something pre arranged by the director of the film.

On Tango Bar, there is a small piece of dance by Tito Lusiardo, and then Carlos Gardel says " now I will dance" and make some steps , on a similar pattern than the ones Tito Lusiardo made before ( most probably, Lusiardo was the tango coach for Gardel to do this little show).


It is a mystery, why , being the first movie in the history of argentine cinema , one about Tango , there were no further activity regarding the dancers of the 30's . It seems the directors prefer to show singers or musicians, but no dancers, and also there was not a serious attempt to record documentary .


There was a kind of bulletin news , that was broadcasted at the cinema shows, altogehter with the movies, called "Sucesos Argentinos". It have a weekly detail of activities in Argentina, famous events , or public events, and some aspects or argentine culture. It run from 1938 to 1972 , and it has a typical presentation, a man on a horse with the front legs of the horse in the air ( much like Walt Disneys "Zorro" presentation with Guy Williams).

>From 1944 to 1955, it was used by the government of president Peron , as a propaganda outlet, mainly the information was focused on all the improvements that the peronist government was doing for the well being of citizen ...

This is a clipping , chapter 498 ( they numbered the broadcastings, that were made once a week as said before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7LlEBeim8I


If you made a search on you tube, you have to be careful, because there is a funny version of Sucesos Argentinos, made on the 80`s by a comic program called Cha Cha Cha, with Alfredo Casero . They take the format of Sucesos Argentinos, and produced all kind of jokes , very well concealed . One of the jokes was that all the personell at the cinemas went in strike, and the government used military forces to receive the people and cut the tickets at the entrance of the cinema , also showing them to their seat :)



alberto
 

--- El mié 20-ene-10, Vince Bagusauskas <vytis at hotmail.com> escribió:

> De: Vince Bagusauskas <vytis at hotmail.com>
> Asunto: [Tango-L] Tango in film and what is traditional?
> Para: tango-l at mit.edu
> Fecha: miércoles, 20 de enero de 2010, 10:32 am
> This is what is written on Wikipedia
> regarding "Tango"
> 
>              
>    "The "milonguero" style is characterised
> by a very close 
> embrace, small steps, and syncopated rhythmic footwork. It
> is based on the 
> petitero or caquero style of the crowded downtown clubs of
> the '50s.
> 
>                
>   In contrast, the tango that originated in the family
> clubs 
> of the suburban neighbourhoods (Villa
> Urquiza/Devoto/Avellaneda etc.) 
> emphasizes long elegant steps, and complex figures. In this
> case the embrace 
> may be allowed to open briefly, to permit execution of the
> complicated 
> footwork.
> 
>              
>    The complex figures of this style became
> the basis for a 
> theatrical performance style of Tango seen in the touring
> stage shows. For 
> stage purposes, the embrace is often very open, and the
> complex footwork is 
> augmented with gymnastic lifts, kicks, and drops." (If you
> disagree, you are 
> welcome to edit Wikipedia)
> 
> Therefore based on the above, if the floor is not crowded
> or one is putting 
> on an authentic milonga from the 30's and 40's, the dancers
> would be in 
> their rights to dance against the LOD. A bold statement yes
> but what is the 
> evidence to state otherwise?
> 
> Recent posts on beats/8CB has prompted me to do some
> research over the last 
> few days, so I have been trawling Youtube and Google Video
> looking for 
> dancers doing tango at a milonga, up to the period of the
> late 1950's. 
> There are *lots* of clips of tango singers (how unlike
> today) but nothing 
> in the way of film taken in a milonga.  There are
> therefore only a handful 
> of clips from movies of the 1930's and 40's, of dancers
> putting on a bit of 
> a tango dance.  Invariably the dance seems to be a bit
> of a mismatch of the 
> candombe*/milonga style with lots of space around the
> dancers, allowing the 
> dancers to step any which way.  I grant you that the
> dancers were putting on 
> a show for the movie audience and thus the dance might be
> more showier than 
> what would normally happen.
> 
> Therefore, if anyone can point me to film clips taken at
> real milongas from 
> the proto- and Golden Age of tango please post the links.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vince
> in Melbourne
> 
> *Wiki suggests that candombe is Uruguayan tango
>  
> 
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