[Tango-L] Statistical Tango

Gordon Erlebacher gerlebacher at fsu.edu
Thu Dec 30 18:19:03 EST 2010


I have to agree with Ron. On the other, my students have pretty much 
disappeared, and prefer to learn the 20% that is not danced in the 
traditional Milongas of Bs.As. It is hard to learn the old fashion way: 
walk, walk walk.  After, we do not live in Bs.As. My objection to 
teaching volcadas, etc. is not that they are not danced in Bs.As. (at 
least not in most places), but rather, that they are taught long before 
the student has the skills to execute them properly. Of course, the 
leader can make the lady do it after short instruction, but the lady has 
no knowledge of balance, body sensitivity, control, etc. It is even 
harder for the men: do a volcada, colgada, while maintaining the 
posture, poise, elegance and control. Of course, if these things are not 
deemed important, and for the most part they are not, then sure and 
learn the 20% that is mostly not danced. Note however, that in the rest 
of the world, it is danced and quite often at that. Personally, I dance 
the Volcadas (0%), colgadas (0% going on 1%), and barridas(1% going on 2%).

By the way, I am sure that volcadas, colgadas and barridas are danced 
quite a lot at the practicas of Bs.As., since there is much more space, 
although I am just guessing, since I have not attended the practicas of 
Bs.As.

        Gordon



On 12/30/10 6:10 PM, RonTango wrote:
> How about:
>
> Danced 80% of the time:
> - Walking
> - Back Ochos
> - Ocho Cortado
> - Turns (various types)
>
> Danced 20% of the time:
> - Forward ocho
> - Boleos
> - Sacadas
>
> Danced 0% of the time:
> - Volcadas
> - Colgadas
> - Barridas
>
> That's the way the milongueros I've seen in Buenos Aires dance. (OK, maybe a
> barrida once in a blue moon.)
>
> So, most instruction is directed toward the part of the tango repertoire that's
> danced 0% of the time in the milongas of Buenos Aires.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Michael<tangomaniac at cavtel.net>
>> To: Tango L<Tango-L at mit.edu>
>> Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 4:31:01 PM
>> Subject: [Tango-L] Statistical Tango
>>
>> I'm modifying the 80/20 rule to Tango. 80% of  the time, you dance 20% of
>> everything you know. 20% of the time, you dance  the other 80% you know.
>> Below is a list of figures I consider danced 80% and  20% of the time:
>>
>> Danced 80% of the time                                  Danced 20% of the time
>> Ochos (both directions)                                   Volcadas
>> Molinetes (both directions)                              Colgadas
>> Walking                                                           Barridas
>> Ocho  Cortado                                                  Everything else
>> Sacadas
>> Boleos
>>
>> Based on the  above split, it seems strange that a lot of classes concentrate
>> on figures  or combinations that are danced 20% of the time.
>>
>> If the above information is correct, why is the focus on what is  danced 20%
>> of the time instead of what is danced 80% of the  time?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
>
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