[Tango-L] TANGO 2000 ............For DUMMIES

[Ecsedy Áron]

I am happy for your responses. I DO AGREE with ALL of you in almost all 
aspects, except complete separation of MILONGAS.

Maybe this medium of e-mail is not sufficient or I am not adept at using 
it, or it is simply my lack of native English skills.

- yes I do agree that it is WRONG if ANY dancer scares puts you on the 
defensive, however, there must be a limit what you consider your own 
space. With my BsAs example I was only showing that this is very 
subjective. I did not propose a certain amount, only awareness of 
different norms in an international environment (and that also includes: 
a Swede and a Greek will have different sense of personal space too) - 
this list IS international environment.
- yes I do agree that ALL dancers should be aware of the REACTION of 
others to their own movements, and to be aware of the 'danger' others' 
movements pose to them
- I do agree that milongas should be a COMMON venture, where all dancers 
can dance together without annoying each other
- I do BELIEVE that nuevo should not be used as an excuse to dance 
offensively
- I do KNOW that many, if not most, nuevo dancers (perhaps not in your 
community, but in many other places - my samping area is mostly Europe 
and BsAs) are aware of this and dance accordingly when NEEDED
- As for Chicho dancing socially: he is dancing his style - named nuevo 
by most - still then, but (as I tried to express myself in the previous 
posts) that does NOT imply that he is going to kick your head off while 
slamming into you in the clockwise direction (which considering his 
structure and top speed would not just be dangerous, but outright 
lethal), he is merely using his style and technique to dance small and 
'social'. All dancers in the 'nuevo' lot you mentioned from Arce, Chicho 
etc. consider themselves mainly social dancers as I was made aware in no 
uncertain terms when I asked them to perform on stage (they did accept, 
but they weren't so happy about it).
- nevertheless I do NOT believe that separation of milongas could be an 
answer to anything (except the possible annihilation of a style you are 
protecting), as for practicas, they are not more than a class without a 
teacher, so they immediately imply a certain closed subgroup of dancers.

I hope that clears that we are just using different perspectives and 
some unconcious dogma-like markers to identify styles, while essentially 
agreeing on most of the VALUES (even if arriving to a different 
conclusion for the 'enforcement' of these - which is IMHO sounds a bit 
strange when a group of people understand the root causes, agree on the 
values but try to implement methods to make this values generally 
enforced using methods we DON'T agree on. As a sidenote: sounds like the 
sign of times all over the planet...)

Cheers,
Aron


Jack Dylan írta:
>> From: Alexis Cousein <al at sgi.com>
>>
>> Thank you for putting everyone in the same bag again. So, nuevo dancers are
>> all poor navigators and/or intrude on everyone's space again today?
>>
>>     
>
> Please don't put words in my mouth because I definitely didn't say that. 
> I really don't care how good the Nuevo dancers are, or how good their 
> navigation is or whether or not they intrude into anyone's physical space. 
>
> As I thought I said; the disturbance I most object to is mental, not physical.
>
> It could be Chicho for all I care. I still wouldn't want to share the dance floor 
> with him - unless he danced traditional Tango, which I suspect he probably 
> would if he was attending a traditional milonga. 
>
> All we're asking is that you respect the spirit, tradition, codes and character 
> of the milonga you're attending. Is that really too much to ask?
>
> Jack
>
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