[Tango-L] Bs As dancers are not so hot (larrynla@juno.com)

[Nina Pesochinsky]

Cliff, you are right!

Best,

Nina


At 08:24 AM 11/7/2008, Clif Davis wrote:
>Nina, it is nice to see that your shrink license is working well from afar.
>Your ability to judge a persons thoughts and feelings from a few lines is
>amazing. Not to mention your massive ego that just can't stand being looked
>at. I am sure you are a fine dancer. Maybe even a great dancer. But is it
>because of the blood in your veins or the time you put on the floor?
>Remember, Argentine blood is messed up as American blood. It isn't pure, so
>which is the influencing part. Is it German? Is it from the plains? Is it
>from the blacks and other slaves that were brought in? Which is the true
>Argentine blood that makes you so special? I mean if you are saying that
>"only Argentines" can truly dance tango, then let's have some science to
>back it up. Or is it really just your personal bias and massive ego that is
>putting everyone else down.
>
>Look in the mirror Nina, post some video if you haven't already, let's see
>your true Argentine magic. And which of the 9 or 10 "true" tangos is your
>specialty. Have you created your own? Oh wait, you are a follower, doesn't
>that mean you are only as good as the person leading you? Or, are you really
>special and back lead?
>
>Just curious, I mean, since YOU know more than anyone about the abilities of
>dancers and their ability, please dear god Nina, bestow upon us your wisdom
>and oh by the way, when is your book coming out? Surely someone as sage as
>you has a book in the offing.
>
>Me, I am just a silly American living in China and enjoying it. You know,
>they even think I can dance. They even want to dance with me, which I am
>sure a snob like would never want to do. I may not be perfect enough.
>
>Have a great day. I hope you don't block out the sun.
>
>Clif
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
>Nina Pesochinsky
>Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:39 PM
>To: tango-l at mit.edu
>Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Bs As dancers are not so hot (larrynla at juno.com)
>
>Clif,
>
>Nausea is a good thing.  It tells you that there might be something
>to look at inside yourself that might need your attention.  Perhaps
>the envy of the divine?:)
>
>I always enjoy seeing insecure dancers show up on this list.  They
>pat themselves on the back, praise their own accomplishments and
>can't accept their own inferiority.  Or maybe they do accept it and
>know that there is nothing, absolutely nothing they can do about
>it.   It is always very funny to observe foreigners claim "We are as
>good as Argentines, or even better!".  At what?  Moves?  Yes, of
>course!  Feeling?  No.  Evidence? Either any milonga outside of the
>BsAs or any milonga in BsAs that many foreigners attend is the
>evidence.   The quality of these milongas is distinctly different
>from milongas where only Argentines are present, without
>exceptions.  The quality of dance is difference also.
>
>Argentines, as arrogant as they are nationally, are able to accept
>their inferiorities.  I have heard dancers in BsAs say that they will
>never be as good as dancing swing as the Americans are.
>
>BTW, accepting that your tango is inferior to Argentine dancers'
>should not prevent you from enjoying it, wherever you are. :)
>
>Best,
>
>Nina
>
>
>At 12:07 AM 11/7/2008, Clif Davis wrote:
> >I get so fed up with the elitist BS that comes from this list sometimes I
> >become nauseated.
> >Foreigners can't dance tango frogs can't swim. Total rubbish.
> >
> >Some the demi-gods of tango on this list need to look at the origins of the
> >dance and remember that like swing, and most dances, was a bar dance meant
> >for making a connection between men and women. Just like all dances. It's
> >not some classic dance style brought down from the heavens. It is a bar
> >dance danced for pleasure by the masses in bars.
> >
> >The gods also need to remember that each instructor created his own style.
> >None of them are perfect and they wanted as many people to dance their
>style
> >as possible. Not just the people in some far away place.
> >
> >Tango is not a religion and BsAs is not Mecca. It is a city with lots of
> >bars where people dance tango. People from all over the world. Some dance
> >with grace and some dance like frogs, but they all enjoy themselves.
> >
> >Enjoy your tango where ever you are in the world. Your tango is as good as
> >anyone in Argentina.
> >
> >Clif, from China.
> >
> >
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