[Tango-L] Bs As dancers are not so hot (larrynla@juno.com)

[Clif Davis]

Nina, it is nice to see that your shrink license is working well from afar.
Your ability to judge a persons thoughts and feelings from a few lines is
amazing. Not to mention your massive ego that just can't stand being looked
at. I am sure you are a fine dancer. Maybe even a great dancer. But is it
because of the blood in your veins or the time you put on the floor?
Remember, Argentine blood is messed up as American blood. It isn't pure, so
which is the influencing part. Is it German? Is it from the plains? Is it
from the blacks and other slaves that were brought in? Which is the true
Argentine blood that makes you so special? I mean if you are saying that
"only Argentines" can truly dance tango, then let's have some science to
back it up. Or is it really just your personal bias and massive ego that is
putting everyone else down. 

Look in the mirror Nina, post some video if you haven't already, let's see
your true Argentine magic. And which of the 9 or 10 "true" tangos is your
specialty. Have you created your own? Oh wait, you are a follower, doesn't
that mean you are only as good as the person leading you? Or, are you really
special and back lead?

Just curious, I mean, since YOU know more than anyone about the abilities of
dancers and their ability, please dear god Nina, bestow upon us your wisdom
and oh by the way, when is your book coming out? Surely someone as sage as
you has a book in the offing.

Me, I am just a silly American living in China and enjoying it. You know,
they even think I can dance. They even want to dance with me, which I am
sure a snob like would never want to do. I may not be perfect enough.

Have a great day. I hope you don't block out the sun.

Clif

-----Original Message-----
From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
Nina Pesochinsky
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:39 PM
To: tango-l at mit.edu
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Bs As dancers are not so hot (larrynla at juno.com)

Clif,

Nausea is a good thing.  It tells you that there might be something 
to look at inside yourself that might need your attention.  Perhaps 
the envy of the divine?:)

I always enjoy seeing insecure dancers show up on this list.  They 
pat themselves on the back, praise their own accomplishments and 
can't accept their own inferiority.  Or maybe they do accept it and 
know that there is nothing, absolutely nothing they can do about 
it.   It is always very funny to observe foreigners claim "We are as 
good as Argentines, or even better!".  At what?  Moves?  Yes, of 
course!  Feeling?  No.  Evidence? Either any milonga outside of the 
BsAs or any milonga in BsAs that many foreigners attend is the 
evidence.   The quality of these milongas is distinctly different 
from milongas where only Argentines are present, without 
exceptions.  The quality of dance is difference also.

Argentines, as arrogant as they are nationally, are able to accept 
their inferiorities.  I have heard dancers in BsAs say that they will 
never be as good as dancing swing as the Americans are.

BTW, accepting that your tango is inferior to Argentine dancers' 
should not prevent you from enjoying it, wherever you are. :)

Best,

Nina


At 12:07 AM 11/7/2008, Clif Davis wrote:
>I get so fed up with the elitist BS that comes from this list sometimes I
>become nauseated.
>Foreigners can't dance tango frogs can't swim. Total rubbish.
>
>Some the demi-gods of tango on this list need to look at the origins of the
>dance and remember that like swing, and most dances, was a bar dance meant
>for making a connection between men and women. Just like all dances. It's
>not some classic dance style brought down from the heavens. It is a bar
>dance danced for pleasure by the masses in bars.
>
>The gods also need to remember that each instructor created his own style.
>None of them are perfect and they wanted as many people to dance their
style
>as possible. Not just the people in some far away place.
>
>Tango is not a religion and BsAs is not Mecca. It is a city with lots of
>bars where people dance tango. People from all over the world. Some dance
>with grace and some dance like frogs, but they all enjoy themselves.
>
>Enjoy your tango where ever you are in the world. Your tango is as good as
>anyone in Argentina.
>
>Clif, from China.
>
>
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