[Tango-L] Krasimir, peralta vs gustavo

Krasimir Stoyanov krasimir at krasimir.com
Wed Jan 23 01:55:15 EST 2008


You missed the point. I said that she does what is needed for a good  
dance, but not always. And I am puzzled why. She may dance well for a  
tanda, or for the whole milonga, but then, it may be a week or more,  
before it happens again. And, as I feel my feet shaking, I cannot  
continue with the teaching, the foundation is not stable, if it  
happens just by occation.

Last sunday she was simply marvelous, I don't know how it looked from  
outside, but it felt great. No milonga on monday, and yesterday, she  
showed no technique at all. Guessing, jumping ahead, robotic kind of  
stiffness, etc. No idea why is this.

Before I start teaching her, she NEVER danced well, only the most  
desparate men wanted her. So, she learned a lot from me, people see it  
and tell her - but I have no idea how to make it stable.

I know I am not the best possible teacher, I'd rather not do it, but I  
am forced to do it - the local teachers are either not paying  
attention to technique, or, in the case of my former teacher, have  
embraced weird ideas (filling open spaces, pulling the lady with the  
left hand, etc.).

By technique I mean leading and following the most basic things -  
posture, walking, pivots. No colcadas, volcadas, complex sacadas etc.  
I don't want to stress her with such things.



Quoting Keith <keith at tangohk.com>:

> Oh dear, Krasimir. I enjoy your posts and your ideas about Tango. But now it
> seems you're just another of those guys who blames everything on the girl.
> Sorry if I'm interpreting you incorrectly but that's what it sounds   
> like. If you've
> been teaching a lady for 2 months and she still can't dance well   
> with you as her
> partner, then maybe you're not cut out to be a teacher. And please   
> don't blame
> the lady for lacking the talent needed. Look to yourself. Maybe   
> you've discovered
> that teaching Tango just isn't as easy as a lot of people seem to think.
>
> Krasimir, you should come to Hong Kong. We have wonderful ladies here who are
> a delight to dance with - easy to lead and excellent followers. They  
>  don't guess
> and they don't anticipate. The reason is that that we have excellent  
>  local teachers.
> We now have around 4 or 5 local couples teaching Tango and all are producing
> very nice dancers. We have a few bad apples, but they're always the ones who
> don't go to classes.
>
> Keith, HK
>
>
>  On Wed Jan 23 12:42 , "Krasimir Stoyanov"  sent:
>
> Yes, I know how to do
>> it, but I need a partner, right? So far I fail in my efforts to "create"
>> one. The thing that I have no idea how to stop is their doing things on
>> their own. Sometimes they stop, and we dance well. But most of the time,
>> they anticipate, and the millisecond they "discover" the step, they are
>> already ahead of you in the step. This is very, very bad thing in tango, it
>> simply kills the dance, kills the connection. And I don't know how to make
>> them not do it. I have a lady that I teach to for two months. She can
>> already perform the correct walking. BUT, only when she stops anticipating.
>> It happens once a week or so. But, most of the time, no. And this stops her
>> progress for now. So you see, I am not ready to show anything.
>>
>> I am desperate, and I don't think anyone can help, it is the job of the
>> follower to stop guessing and anticipating - the correct technique is in
>> place to make the movement the right way, but she's simply not using it. The
>> second she "decides" to do something, she just ignores the skills I thought
>> to her. Yes, I know she is too new in tango, but these kind of going from 0%
>> to 100% and back from dance to dance are something I have no idea how to
>> deal with.
>>
>> Is this because she lacks the talent needed?
>>
>
>
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