[Tango-L] how to lead (was 'weight change')

[Oleh Kovalchuke]

> > My "frame" is always "locked" -- I dance in close embrace.
> >
>
> B (close embrace) does not imply A (the frame is locked).

While it might be true statement in the way you perceive close embrace
dancing, I was writing from experience about my own dancing style
(that is why I used that adjective in the sentence). My embrace begins
at chest level, it is always locked (with good followers). Apparently
your style is different, and it's OK.

> If (or I should say when) the frame is really locked, it is impossible
> for you to do a weight change and for your partner to do none...
etc.

I do it all the time, when I do the cross, and the follower doesn't.
Thousands of dancers are doing that as well. If I were to see your
video, I might be able to point out to you, when you are doing this.

-- 
Oleh Kovalchuke, not surprised
Argentine Tango : Connection, Balance, Rhythm
http://tangospring.com

<If I have seen, it is by referring to my own experience>

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Alexis Cousein <al at sgi.com> wrote:
> Oleh Kovalchuke wrote:
> > Alexis Cousein wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Nobody is claiming that you necessarily lead a weight shift of the
> > > follower through your own weight shift, except when the frame is locked
> > > (i.e. when your axis and hers are moving in unison).
> > >
> >
> > My "frame" is always "locked" -- I dance in close embrace.
> >
>
> B (close embrace) does not imply A (the frame is locked).
>
> If (or I should say when) the frame is really locked, it is impossible
> for you to do a weight change and for your partner to do none;
> by definition: a weight change means moving your centre of gravity
> relative to your support points, and if the frame is locked, by
> definition you can't have one person doing it and the other not.
>
> Even in close embrace (and fully apilado), you'd be surprised at the
> number of degrees of freedom there still are. Well, actually, you
> wouldn't, given that you seem to be able to shift your weight without
> shifting that of your partner.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Alexis Cousein                                  al at sgi.com
> Senior Systems Engineer/Solutions Architect     SGI/Silicon Graphics
> --
> <If I have seen further, it is by standing on reference manuals>
>
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