[Tango-L] Smoke in BA

[Floyd Baker]

Right now I consider this *entire* subject with it's various threads
to be off topic., and I'm sorry I entered into it.  It is all to do
with smoke, and not about Tango.

Beyond that., it is very unfortunate for all the victims and terrible
conditions that you say exist.   I do understand that., and I feel for
those who are suffering.  



Here is my private response to your private email.  The one not
addressed to Tango-L   Both of which are identical afai can see.


Deby..

To me it was a 'possiblity'.   I have not been there nor know the
farmer's standard of living.   So, I believe my statement was put in
the manner of a question...?  If anyone knew what their
standard of living was.   

You seem to know.  Fine. They're millonairs   ;-/   No difference!

Money still rules, eh?   If not the lightning, or the kids, or
'starving' farmers.., then people will still do what it takes to get
things done to suit themselves.

I would say that a 16 percent increase IS excessive.   No matter they
can 'afford' it.   Perhaps the government should help to increase
production and export, instead of charging more for what is *already*
being done.   

Grasslands exist all over the country.   I'm sure there would be no
problem growing soy somewhere other than upwind of the city.., right?
And it could be mandated..?   So what is the 'real' problem.  And will
it continue to happen?  

Can anyone give a Tango related solution?

Abrazos...

Floyd










On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:57:02 -0300, you wrote:

>
>I am sorry Floyd but you have no clue. You should read a little more 
>before you state an opinion that is completely ignorant.  The farmers 
>here are some of the richest people in the country.  They have a very high standard 
>of living.  Agribusiness came to Argentina during the crisis. There are 
>very few small farms left, just like in the U.S.  The difference here is 
>that we have stricter controls over the use of hormones, feed, and 
>genetic engineering. 
>
>My friend from Texas owns 3 ranches here with his Argentine partners.  
>He is not the exception.  Talk to anyone from Argentina and they will 
>tell you that the money is with farming now.  The guys that set the 
>fires are millionaires.  They were clearing the land to plant more soy.  
>These were grasslands used to feed cattle. These are the same people who 
>last month were protesting the 16% increase on soy export taxes as being 
>unfair.  My friend who is the attorney for one of the provinces said 
>the 16% tax to them is nothing compared to the huge profits they reap.  
>They protested to try and make the president look bad for the tax, and 
>it backfired on them. 
>
>This situation with the grasslands was a horror story.  You could not 
>see more than 100 meters in front of you.  All major highways were 
>closed.  The subte was closed down.  This was a crisis due to the greed and stupidity 
>of a few people.  There have been over 100 arrested and 3 people so far are being charged.
>
>Hospitals were overflowing with people who were asthmatics that could not breathe.  The carbon monoxide was
>causing us to be eternally tired and they were very fearful of the levels.  My plants on my
>17th floor balcony were dying.  I was part of the horrendous fire that was in Oakland California in
>1991 that was considered one of the worst wildfires in the history of the U.S.  It did not even come
>close to what was happening here.
>
>
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