[Tango-L] Strong Lead - resistance effect

steve pastor tang0man2005 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 22 17:42:00 EDT 2007


  Maybe you can use this, Igor.
  Excerpt from a PhD thesis...
   
  Understanding the Haptic Interactions of Working Together
  Kyle Brandon Reed
   
  This is about haptic communication "communicating by touch". Kyle is a
  Lindy Hop dancer, too.
  There is much, much, more in this article. I found this excerpt with a quick search for
  "of forces". Somewhere she has "definition of forces", too.
   
  In some applications, forces can relay vital information. If the perception of forces is
  reduced, as in Shergill el al.’s study, or the transfer of forces is hindered, communication
  can be significantly diminished. Fly-By-Wire (FBW), a design for airplane control,
  eliminates the direct mechanical connection (and thus the forces) between the pilot
  and the plane’s control surfaces and also between the two pilots. Depending on the
  configuration and design of the FBW system, the flight sticks allow little or no haptic
  interaction between pilots. Summers et al. [94] conducted a series of experiments on pilots
  using a Flight Simulator at NASA Ames Research Center. They examined four different
  cases, ranked by the pilots in order from most preferred to least preferred: coupled,
  uncoupled with a disconnect switch, uncoupled with priority logic (essentially the largest
  input wins), and uncoupled (average of inputs). The pilots significantly preferred the
  coupled (haptic) FBW more than the uncoupled (non-haptic) FBW. They also found a
  significant performance decrement when using uncoupled FBW.


Igor Polk <ipolk at virtuar.com> wrote:  Dear Michael

I am so sorry you have no idea what resistance is..
Once you learn it, you will find it for yourself that you do not need any
"substantiation". 
You just will not want to dance in any other way.

Still, there is substantiation. I wrote quite a lot about in on my website.
Not complete yet, sorry..

Igor Polk



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:tangomaniac at cavtel.net] 
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:23
To: Igor Polk; shepherd at arborlaw.com
Cc: tango-l at mit.edu; Michael
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Strong Lead - resistance effect

Igor:
I agree completely with Carol that less resistance is desired. Resistance
causes muscles to tense and when they tense, it's difficult to move them.

However, you wrote that there is strong scientific substantiation. Where is
the substantiation.

Michael
I'd rather be dancing Argentine Tango
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Igor Polk" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Strong Lead - resistance effect


I missed that, sorry..

Carol: "the more advanced the dancer, the less resistance is desired,
because it allows more nuance."

Actually it is opposite: Stronger resistance in body and in hands allows way
more nuances. 

And there is strong scientific substantiation to that.
Igor Polk





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