[Tango-L] How to foster sustainable and unified communities.

[Krasimir Stoyanov]

It all depends on who are xxxxxx and xxxxxxxx   ;-)

I am not a teacher, but I have seen teaching couples spread "confusion" in 
my tango comunity, so I don't know what to think of this letter. Yes, it is 
not politically correct. But, sometimes I feel the same pain watching some 
hard work's results destroyed in hours.

So, if possible, tell us who are xxxxxx and xxxxxxxx , then everyone will 
make their own conclusion.


Otherwise, no com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amaury de Siqueira" <amaurycdsf at yahoo.com>
To: <tango-l at mit.edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: [Tango-L] How to foster sustainable and unified communities.


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> Hello folks,
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> The following email show the exchange among dancers in anAmerican city.  I 
> have anonymzed clues in the message that could identifypeople and places 
> to avoid further dissention.
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> My question are for the veterans that have spent yearsand great effort 
> creating sustainable and unified communities.  How can weas a group 
> continue to thrive when dancers have such blunt disrespect for others?
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> I ask this question to the list for a simple reason:  thecontent of the 
> message below indicates problems that could deeply divide andhurt a 
> community?
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> I don&#8217;t think this problem is unique to oneplace.  On the contrary 
> such blunt animosity may very well be the normrather than exception.
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> Constructive comments anyone?
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> Respectfully,
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> Amaury
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> One last time for those who may be "sitting on thefence" so to speak  ...
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> This weekend, I am offering a series of 5 classes whichare tailored for 
> the tango communities in and around xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
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> Some people are tempted by the workshops of xxxxxx xxxxxxxxand xxxxxxxx 
> xxxxx, which happen to be in part coinciding with myclasses. You can  see 
> all the details of that program, as it was posted onseveral yahoo  groups, 
> which I copy for you for easy reference, at thebottom of my  email here.
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> If you are considering taking their workshops, I suggestyou take a good 
> look at the way they dance on one of the several videosposted on  youtube, 
> and while you are watching the videos, make sure themusic is  loud enough 
> to hear, because they are supposed to be teachingsome  workshops on 
> musicality, too. I suggest also that you payclose,  careful, objective 
> attention to the choice of the titles they havemade  for their workshops. 
> I suggest you ask some questions fromyourself  about these titles in 
> connection with what YOU think our tangocommunity  needs, and what you 
> yourself need in your tango dancing. xxxxxxand  xxxxxxxx and the 
> organizers won't do this for you; you have to do itfor  yourself.
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> I was hoping that after he visited our community the lasttime, sometime 
> last winter, xxxxxx xxxxxxx will offer somethingmeaningful this time 
> around. So, I have read and read again theannouncements about his and  his 
> partner's upcoming visit, looking for aclue as to what their  interest is 
> in our tango community beyond provingthat they have some  talent for the 
> dance, and a need for money. I waslooking for a clue as  to a genuine 
> interest on their part in the growthof our community's  UNDERSTANDING of 
> the tango. Unfortunately for xxxxxand xxxxxxxx and  for those of you who 
> will be spending your time andmoney and energy  with them, I have found no 
> sign whatsoever of anysensitivity or respect  for the makeup and the needs 
> of the tangocommunity here in their  proposed upcoming visit. Par for the 
> course.
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> Straight to the point, there is no doubt in my mind thatanyone who is 
> receiving this email and who is going to miss my classes infavor of  their 
> workshops, is going to lose on three fronts:
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> 1) missing out on what I have tailored for this community
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> 2) learning material from xxxxxx and xxxxxxxx that isgoing to be  largely 
> if not entirely useless, and that will add to theconfusion that  comes 
> with the deluge of this largely useless material.
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> We will be losing too: For the next few weeks or months,those who will  be 
> confused, and who may have a thick enough skin to readall this, and  still 
> come back to our classes, will come in and askquestions generated  by this 
> unnecessary confusion, that will take timeand energy to try to  answer. We 
> will of course answer, but even the mostlogical answers will  encounter 
> some resistance as I describe next: pleaseread on, because  the next part 
> is the most important part.
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> There is another dimension to the loss to those who willwaste their  time 
> and money and energy with xxxxxx and xxxxxxxx:
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> 3) once you submit yourself to the process of trying tolearn what they 
> will try to teach you, you will have invested more thanmoney, time, and 
> energy. You will have invested with your feeling andemotions and 
> aspirations and hopes. That investment is priceless. Youwill want to  see 
> that investment pay off NO MATTER WHAT! And for thatreason, you  will be 
> in a position to question even the most logical andsensible  explanations 
> of tango offered to you if those explanationscontradict  what you learnd 
> from xxxxxx and xxxxxxx.
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> If you don't believe this, I offer you (anyone) who willtake xxxxxx and 
> xxxxxxxx's workshops, to come to one of my classesafterwards, and show  me 
> what you learned, and be ready to answer somereally, really tough 
> questions, and prove me wrong if you can!
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