[Tango-L] CITA begins in BsAs

Wed Mar 14 22:03:33 EDT 2007

I agree that women do not need to memorize steps or anticipate the guy's 
lead. However, the idea that women do not need to be taught to dance tango 
is not so certain. Sure, there are those rare women who are either naturally 
talented or very skilled dancers already who can follow basic tango leads 
very well. However, that's not at all the case with the vast majority of 
women. They are like the men, they cannot intuitively learn to dance tango 
(following) any more than guys can intuitively learn to lead.
I'm very familiar with women who go to milongas only and never take lessons. 
Maybe they took a few lessons at the beginning, but decided they already 
knew how to dance and stopped learning. There are also those who have been 
*taught* by the resident self styled *teacher* who grabs every new women who 
shows up at a milongas and *teaches* her on the spot. I have news for these 
ladies: they really don't know how to follow very well and it can be a chore 
to dance with them. There is a huge difference in the experience of dancing 
with one of these ladies and a truly skilled woman dancer. It's like night 
and day...
Taking tango lessons from a qualified teacher is *not* a bad thing. On the 
contrary, it is a very good way to learn to dance. Particularly for the 
women who want to learn to dance the follower's part. Also, if you find that 
you're not learning very much from your current male dance teacher, please 
try another one. Taking private lessons from a good male teacher will 
definitely improve immensely the following ability and dance skill of most 
women.

Cheers,

Manuel

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>From: "Lois Donnay" <donnay at donnay.net>
>To: <Tango-L at mit.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Tango-L] CITA begins in BsAs
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:18:40 -0500
>
>Janis is right - going to classes and learning "steps" is not what 
>followers
>need. I will sometimes get a follower who comes to me and wants to learn
>"that step where a guy goes...." All they are learning is how to 
>anticipate,
>and we all know that is very bad! Instead, what a follower has to learn is
>how to hold her body the proper way to accept the lead. It may be a lot
>easier just to learn all the "steps". It is always easier to recite a
>prepared text than to write your own.
>
>I don't care what anybody says - Following is hard! Finding a teacher who
>can teach following well isn't easy either. I went to a lot of men
>(following the ballroom pattern of taking from a teacher of the opposite
>sex) before I took a lesson from a woman who gave me more in an hour than I
>had gotten for a year before. Learning on the floor by doing is probably
>better than memorizing patterns, or having some guy say "When I do this
>you're supposed to put your foot there".
>
>Lois
>Minneapolis
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris, UK [mailto:tl2 at chrisjj.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:21 AM
>To: Tango-L at mit.edu
>Cc: tl2 at chrisjj.com
>Subject: Re: [Tango-L] CITA begins in BsAs
>
> > I wish I could put out the word ... Single women learn by dancing with
> > various partners in the milongas. They don't need to learn steps in
> > classes.
>
>Janis, do you really think that word would have much effect? For each one
>saying that, there are a hundred teachers saying the opposite.
>
>--
>Chris
>
>
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>
>*Subject:* [Tango-L] CITA begins in BsAs
>*From:* "Janis Kenyon" <Jantango at feedback.net.ar>
>*To:* "Tango-L" <Tango-L at mit.edu>
>*Date:* Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:55:02 -0300
>
>I wish I could put out the word to single women (especially those over 50)
>that they are wasting their time and money by going to CITA.  They pay
>$15-20US per class and don't know until they arrive that they have to pay
>another $15US per class to hire a taxi dancer.  They could be going to the
>milongas everyday from 4-10pm.  Single women learn by dancing with various
>partners in the milongas.  They don't need to learn steps in classes.
>
>On Sunday I met Jackie from Spokane, Washington.  She told me she came to
>Buenos Aires to dance with the milongueros.  I told her that there are no
>milongueros teaching for CITA, and there won't be any milongueros dancing 
>at
>the CITA milongas either.  If she wants to dance with milongueros, she
>should forget the classes and go to the afternoon milongas.  She was told
>that so-and-so is a milonguero, so she signed up for three of his classes 
>at
>CITA.
>
>I happened to meet her on the street while she was trying to find the
>location of her first class.  She had no idea where she was going.  I
>escorted her from one location to another until we arrived at Bauen Suites
>where the class was being held.  Jackie had not made arrangements to hire a
>taxi dancer, so I recommended she ask Julio to practice with her since he
>was there to translate the class for English-speakers.
>
>At least she'll have another week in Buenos Aires to dance in the milongas.
>
>
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