[Tango-L] Didint we go through this last year (spammers?)

Fri Mar 9 00:36:12 EST 2007

Ok, I know this is a scam. Being an optimist there is a thin thread of
possibility. But everything says scam, so why waste my time and energy.
A couple of other things, I work in IT and do desktop support for major
corporations. I was also a collection agent in one life time (no throwing
pointed object please, this is why I am in the IT field).

It is true, one usually needs more than just a bank account number to drain
funds. But with a little research, time, energy and know how. It is possible
to do.

CCBill I believe is a 3rd party billing company. Say for instance a porn
company is charging someone for their services. The porn company will
usually go through a 3rd party billing service for pretty obvious reasons.
This is the same thing as someone doing a transaction on EBay and using
Paypal for the financial transaction.

Astrid;
If I may give an example; because this is a common occurrence.
Usually you call CCbill, let them know you did not authorize access to the
services. DO NOT get in sensed at the person on the other end of the phone,
email, etc. that you would never have ever gone to the site or not, they
don't care and the poor sod on the other end of the line usually get
screamed at several times a day.
This may be an annoyance, but it is simple straight forward business. Tell
them you did not authorize the transaction (they will want to verify who
they are talking with). The original company (shemale.. In this case) should
know when the account that was created was accessed and where the account
was accessed from (IP address). If you tell them you are living in Japan,
they can usually put two and two together and should credit your account
back to the account the funds originally came from. Most will usually credit
back 3 months (any longer, you have not been keeping track of your
finances). If you need, you can always file an affidavit of forgery with
your bank and they can talk to the billing company. Your bank should not
charge for this service also.
I am not sure what type of bank the card that was used is attached to (US,
Japanese, Etc). But you might want to talk to your bank, let them know and
have them issue a new card to you. If things get more complex talk to your
banks fraud dept. There are other things one can do, but this is as far as I
am going.

This is one of the realities of the world we live in unfortunately.

Note: I am not a trained Legal counsel or a professional in the banking/
financial industry. The examples I gave are a few simple suggestions for
working with a common problem with in the US.

As a side note, you might also want to contact the local shaman and see if
they can put some kind of spell together to send gnomes after the offender
who used your card in the first place, to manipulate their genitals (gnomes
are a grouchy bunch).   

Not sure if you have closed the matter, but I hope this information is of
help.

David~

-----Original Message-----
From: tango-l-bounces at mit.edu [mailto:tango-l-bounces at mit.edu] On Behalf Of
astrid
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:55 PM
To: tango-l at mit.edu
Subject: [Tango-L] Didint we go through this last year (spammers?)

> one, I don't see how anybody can empty a bank account just from knowing
the
> number. Enlighten me if I am wrong here.
> Why don't you ask this man for his phone, fax, postal address etc. ? You
> never know, might be some clueless besotted father, wanting lessons from
> someone he does not even know, for his son..
>
> Having said that, I just spent the morning trying to convince my credit
card
> company that I did not buy a subscription from  CCBill.com for watching
> "shemalesf...kgirls.com/members" on the internet. They argued "but this is
> your name and email adress, even if the shipping address is in the US, and
> you gave them your security number". It wasn't my email adress. For all I
> know, someone in a certain country where I went last year where people
were
> trying to get their hands on our credit cards all the time, someone is
> having a ball. Well, not much longer...
> So much for deleting all the spam.
>
> Be careful, guys. Also, I wonder, how many spammers have access to the
> tango-l adress list.
>
> Astrid
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Hodgson" <DHodgson at tangolabyrinth.com>
> To: "Tango L list" <Tango-L at mit.edu>
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:02 AM
> Subject: [Tango-L] Didint we go through this last year
>
>
> > I just received the email below and a recall a similar email about a
year
> > ago. A couple of other teachers mentioned they got a similar email. Clay
> > Nelson mentioned he tried corresponding and it went no where.
> >
> > Let me know if I am off track or the above information is incorrect.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is weird, it is like a convoluted Nigerian email scam.
> >
> >
> >
> > First: The email below is crap.
> >
> > Second: What are they thinking, that someone will give them a bank
account
> > number to deposit money in as payment for teaching services rendered.
Then
> > they will access the account later withdrawing what ever money is in the
> > account (don't laugh it does happen).
> >
> > Third: They could be wanting my address, to come over and steal
something.
> > Hell I will invite them over and offer them tea in a Budweiser mug that
I
> > would be happy to give them just to get rid of the thing.
> >
> > Fourth: I could be totally wrong on all counts here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just checking with others and getting the word out.
> >
> > David~
> >
> >
> >
> > PS: If any one is missing a Budweiser mug in their collection, I would
be
> > happy to mail it to them. Really, tea is the only thing that has been in
> it.
> > It's life in my home is fast coming to a close.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: hleb john [mailto:hleb_006 at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:18 AM
> > To: dhodgson at tangolabyrinth.com
> > Subject: lesson teacher needed.........
> >
> >
> >
> >   This is Hleb .I am from the United kingdom,my son will be coming  for
a
> > holiday in the United state,and i wont want him to be less busy,so i
just
> > want to know maybe you can always come and teach him great things on
> > Ballroom dance Lessons every afternoon.If this is possible,i will want
you
> > to get back to me with the cost of your teach ing for two weeks in
> > April(1st-14th).He will be coming to your house for 1 hour each
> > afternoon,2pm to 3pm .I have someone that will always drive him down to
> your
> > house His name is Harry,he is 12 years old.I will want you to calculate
1
> > hour per day from Monday-Friday for the whole 2 weeks,and get back to me
> so
> > that we can arrange on payment looking forward to hear from you
> >
> >  Regard
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast
> > with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
> >
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