[Tango-L] Rampant serious misunderstandings about "Gustavo"

Jake Spatz (TangoDC.com) spatz at tangoDC.com
Tue Jul 24 01:48:45 EDT 2007


Neil,

This is virtually an entire subgenre of tango songs. Vd. 
http://www.todotango.com/english/biblioteca/letras/letras_tema.asp?idt=5&t=Mother

Jake
DC


Tango Tango wrote:
> Brian.
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> Italian men cry because they miss their mommies.
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> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1945801,00.html
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> Neil
>
>
> On 7/23/07, Brian Dunn <brian at danceoftheheart.com> wrote:
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>> Dani, you wrote:
>>     
>> On the other hand, Brian, as much as I thoroughly agree with you about
>> Gustavo, I have to say the following to you:
>> I get annoyed about peoples' ideas, which often flies in the face of the
>> natural concept of what tango (in fact, almost any partnered dance but
>> more
>> so tango), in my opinion is... machismo vs femininity. The man is the
>> predator, the woman is the prey, as has been since time immemorial (which
>> is
>> undoubtedly the reason why seeing women leading irritates me so much). To
>> hear what should be a machismo tanguero talking of "sitting with tears in
>> our eyes watching them dance" really turns my stomach. Men (even more so
>> in
>> the tango world) should be men... not wimps (American equivalent, I
>> believe,
>> is "wussy" or something).
>> <<<
>>
>> Hey, Dani, relax.  I agree with you about men and women in some ways that
>> might surprise you, even if I'd extend and modify your metaphor
>> considerably.  "Sitting there with tears in our eyes" was a phrase
>> motivated
>> by watching my wife Deb ruin her makeup.
>>
>> On the other hand, I seem to recall lots of tough Italian guys in the
>> "Godfather"-vein of our popular mythology who let themselves go
>> emotionally
>> at an opera, for example.  In these popular portrayals, these guys seem
>> like
>> fellows that I wouldn't want to call a wimp, except maybe over a phone
>> from
>> an untraceable location. I'd say context is important in evaluating
>> whether
>> tears convey strong passionate emotion or "wussy-hood".
>>
>> In any case, I wish I'd been there in Rome with you!
>>
>> Abrazos,
>> Brian Dunn
>> Dance of the Heart
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