[Tango-L] Flaming women at classes

[Trini y Sean (PATangoS)]

Hi Andrew,

Perhaps I can add some insight into what I think Nina
means.

If a man decides that he doesn't want to lead volcadas,
colgadas, back ochos, or whatever, he doesn't have to learn
how to do it.  (BTW, I actually had a student who once
decided that he didn't want to lead back ochos, so he never
did it.  He didn't advance very far, but I had to respect
his choices.)

However, a woman can't just decide that she just doesn't
want to do back ochos, or forward ochos, or turns.  Even a
novice going to her first milonga is likely to experience
an ocho or molinete even if she's never been taught.

So the man is limited by what he knows moreso than a woman
is.

As a follower who also leads, a lot of what I do AS A
LEADER comes from what I personally experience as a
follower.  So I learn how certain men time things, how they
lead things.  I take those experiences as a follower into
my dance when I lead and I try to recreate those
experiences for my partner.


Trini de Pittsburgh

--- Andrew RYSER SZYMAÑSKI <arrabaltango at yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> Sorry, I can't see the sense of this; if, as Cacho
> Dante says,
> "Guys, to dance tango, you must listen to the heart of
> the woman"
>  the the man has to adapt to the woman, not the other
> [patriarchal] way round. I find I have to dance
> differently according to the way my partners move. The
> whole purpose of the exercise is to make the most
> diabolically useless woman look, & feel, good.
> 
> As for Pablo Pugliese, after "experiencing" him on
> several occasions in our London, UK, milongas, I can't
> help concluding he was speaking for himself. He has
> yet to find where the stage finishes and the
> dancefloor begins....Like many of the recent spate of
> gurus from Bs As who, with their elaborate
> circomvoluted spaghetti-junction moves take up so much
> space that everybody else on the floor has to give
> them a very broad & wide berth. As a consequence, they
> do not practically feel the need to develop any
> navigational skills, but still find time to preach
> about them.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andy.
> 
>
http://www.academia-del-tango-argentino.com/html/france/textes/texte4_fr.htm
> 





       
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